tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post1964323113147240959..comments2023-10-29T06:33:26.576-07:00Comments on Oil Is Mastery: Vine Deloria Jr. On Racism In ScienceOilIsMasteryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-73916390272748593082009-06-21T00:26:23.435-07:002009-06-21T00:26:23.435-07:00I've managed to get copies of Deloria's 3 ...I've managed to get copies of Deloria's 3 books from Amazon, and should have them in Oz in a few weeks time. His Red Earth, White lies seems an interesting book from a geological perspective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-39804819449303547092009-06-20T02:32:40.152-07:002009-06-20T02:32:40.152-07:00Vine DeLoria is quite correct at least in all his ...Vine DeLoria is quite correct at least in all his listed quotations! Thanks again!Fungus the Photo!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14879977479841544025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-53669248280969586002009-06-20T02:31:44.457-07:002009-06-20T02:31:44.457-07:00Racism seems to be a big issue in the USA. I suppo...Racism seems to be a big issue in the USA. I suppose that it is one way in which those who rule distract and play off one side against another.<br />It would only make sense in science if the useful portions of non-acceptable cultures were discovered, analyzed and then diguised or destroyed. There were some allegations f that in Iraq a few years ago with the museum business. And of course those electric cells you posted about. <br />The jews are only one tribe. Judah as in lion of. The eagle, Dan and all the rest seem to be awol!Fungus the Photo!https://www.blogger.com/profile/14879977479841544025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-47366676197201864762009-06-17T18:41:56.217-07:002009-06-17T18:41:56.217-07:00Jeffery,
"You didn't comprehend a word I...Jeffery,<br /><br />"You didn't comprehend a word I said. You never will."<br /><br />You can say that again.<br /><br />"You just lost 1/4 of your readership."<br /><br />If you actually read or understood a word of what I post you'd be agreeing with what I'm saying.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-30355838302319270032009-06-17T18:32:27.323-07:002009-06-17T18:32:27.323-07:00QF,
"NASA doesn't take them seriously&qu...QF,<br /><br />"NASA doesn't take them seriously"<br /><br />NASA takes <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Ipb8-CLDM" rel="nofollow">Genesis</a> seriously.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-75576861289202379202009-06-17T16:34:33.035-07:002009-06-17T16:34:33.035-07:00anything Jewish or non-white, is not science.
You...<i>anything Jewish or non-white, is not science.</i><br /><br />You're right... Einstein was Irish like me. So were Caro, Bodmer, Bethe, Born, Penzias, Kalam, Narlikar, Tyson, Michio Kaku, Ashketar, Chandrasekhar and a whole bunch more good ol' boys from down at the feed n' seed. <br /><br />Your problem now, sir... You didn't comprehend a word I said. You never will. I asked you to quote me... which you can't... even though given eight minutes you seem to be able to find a quote to say anything you like. You're a troll... I'm through feeding your victimization. <br /><br />Good luck. You just lost 1/4 of your readership.Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-16896498323336019942009-06-17T16:16:06.910-07:002009-06-17T16:16:06.910-07:00I suppose you don't believe in the existance G...I suppose you don't believe in the existance Gravitational Lagrange Points either. That doesn't mean that NASA doesn't take them seriously, they actually have plans for building future bases at those lagrange points.Quantum_Fluxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383025356536602044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-45247585859854642302009-06-17T15:02:09.194-07:002009-06-17T15:02:09.194-07:00Jeffery,
"A lot of what they did was not sci...Jeffery,<br /><br />"A lot of what they did was not science."<br /><br />That's because according to you anything in the historical record, i.e. anything Jewish or non-white, is not science.<br /><br />"They performed great feats of astronomy, engineering, chemistry and social organization that the so-called Modern world only recently caught up to."<br /><br />Exactly 0% of it Newtonian and uniformitarian.<br /><br />"However, their religions are all bogus nonsense."<br /><br />But Newton's creationist gravitational religion you have no problem with.<br /> <br />"Learn to separate the two concepts."<br /><br />Belief is blief whether it be religious or scientific, it's still just belief.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-3882893094502696502009-06-17T12:37:01.325-07:002009-06-17T12:37:01.325-07:00What is one supposed to conclude from the fact tha...<i>What is one supposed to conclude from the fact that you think Jews, Christians, Native Americans, Aztecs, Mayans, Toltecs, Olmecs, Incas, Chinese, Hindus, Greeks, Egyptians, Sumerians, and Babylonians have no history and no science and that only white people have the right to history and science?</i><br /><br />A lot of what they did was not science. They performed great feats of astronomy, engineering, chemistry and social organization that the so-called Modern world only recently caught up to. However, their <i>religions</i> are all bogus nonsense. Learn to separate the two concepts. <br /><br />You are the one assuming this. You read whatever hateful motive you like into anything you read. You distort and twist everything you see in bizarre and frightening ways. <br /><br />Please provide a quote where I said these folks had no history or science. You can't.Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-54082967604355868502009-06-17T11:44:30.346-07:002009-06-17T11:44:30.346-07:00Jeffery,
"I'd say the number is closer t...Jeffery,<br /><br />"I'd say the number is closer to 92%"<br /><br />Vs. myself who only thinks about 1% of the world is wackjobs, namely Newtonian creationists and their esoteric cult.<br /><br />"It's not anything to do with skin color."<br /><br />I agree. Jews and Greeks are white and you think they are subhuman too.<br /><br />"Do not, in the future, assume that I place any importance on the color of a person's skin or their country of origin."<br /><br />What is one supposed to conclude from the fact that you think Jews, Christians, Native Americans, Aztecs, Mayans, Toltecs, Olmecs, Incas, Chinese, Hindus, Greeks, Egyptians, Sumerians, and Babylonians have no history and no science and that only white people have the right to history and science?OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-40153871018532229412009-06-17T09:24:24.983-07:002009-06-17T09:24:24.983-07:00"According to you 99% of the world is creatio...<i>"According to you 99% of the world is creationist wack jobs."</i><br /><br />I'd say the number is closer to 92%. A large number of whom are well-off white southern Americans. But a creationist is a beleiver of any religion. <br /><br />It's not anything to do with skin color. Hell, you don't even know what color I am... as if it mattered... as I've said, we're all Africans. Do not, in the future, assume that I place any importance on the color of a person's skin or their country of origin. <br /><br />You lose more credibility every day with this nonsense of yours.Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-78689289053124003732009-06-16T20:21:35.850-07:002009-06-16T20:21:35.850-07:00How much closer to the moon? 51% and you'd be...How much closer to the moon? 51% and you'd be falling in orbit around the Earth since that is far more massive. Still, it is tough to really be at rest with respect to the Earth and the Moon since they are in orbit about a common center of mass and because the orbits are elliptical instead of perfect circles. But let's just say that you are standing on the surface of the moon and you drop the apple, the apple will fall toward the moon. Somewhere between, closer to the Moon than to the Earth, the forces cancel each other out, but that is an unstable point where slight nudge in either direction will determine gravitational dominance.Quantum_Fluxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383025356536602044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-30926830085250800882009-06-16T18:13:45.157-07:002009-06-16T18:13:45.157-07:00Louis,
Will definitely have to check those out......Louis,<br /><br />Will definitely have to check those out....=)OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-23320846812674470092009-06-16T18:13:25.153-07:002009-06-16T18:13:25.153-07:00QF,
Assume you are at rest with respect to the E...QF, <br /><br />Assume you are at rest with respect to the Earth and the moon, but closer to the moon than the Earth, and you drop an apple (neutral charge) what happens?OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-31434647869095174762009-06-16T17:14:11.096-07:002009-06-16T17:14:11.096-07:00OIM,
Suggest you get hold of Michael Talbot's...OIM,<br /><br />Suggest you get hold of Michael Talbot's "The Holographic Universe" and also Amit Goswmani's "The self aware Universe".<br /><br />Both should help make some sense of the fractals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-35067584029419969132009-06-16T15:14:01.498-07:002009-06-16T15:14:01.498-07:00Depends on where it is dropped relative to the Moo...Depends on where it is dropped relative to the Moon and the Earth, how fast you're moving when you drop it, whether there is any charge on the apple, etc.Quantum_Fluxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383025356536602044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-772347804485320312009-06-16T14:54:49.841-07:002009-06-16T14:54:49.841-07:00QF,
Drop an apple in between the moon and the Ear...QF,<br /><br />Drop an apple in between the moon and the Earth and what happens?OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-85130092615221276352009-06-16T14:44:56.617-07:002009-06-16T14:44:56.617-07:00Drop an apple in a free falling elevator and it wi...Drop an apple in a free falling elevator and it will stay in place relative to the sides.Quantum_Fluxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383025356536602044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-8948004341119782322009-06-16T14:42:05.461-07:002009-06-16T14:42:05.461-07:00Drop an apple in gravitational orbit and it will f...Drop an apple in gravitational orbit and it will fall around the Earth.Quantum_Fluxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383025356536602044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-65199141214596124922009-06-16T14:20:47.260-07:002009-06-16T14:20:47.260-07:00QF,
Funny. Whenever I see astronauts drop apples ...QF,<br /><br />Funny. Whenever I see astronauts drop apples on the ISS they don't fall to the ground because of it. You must be hallucinating.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-723202633651471102009-06-16T13:36:30.704-07:002009-06-16T13:36:30.704-07:00Gravitation is not a hallucination, drop an apple ...Gravitation is not a hallucination, drop an apple and it falls to the ground because of it.Quantum_Fluxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383025356536602044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-61483642434558938642009-06-16T13:00:47.749-07:002009-06-16T13:00:47.749-07:00QF,
"Hallucinations look a lot like miracles...QF,<br /><br />"Hallucinations look a lot like miracles, volcanoes look a lot like fiery demons, earthquakes feel a lot like underground snakes, droubt seems a lot like an angry sun god, storms seem a lot like an angry rain god, hurricanes seem a lot like a raging beast of the sea, disease seems a lot like a metaphysical curse, mental disabilities or other abnormalities seems a lot like demon possessions, ships in the distance look a lot like moving islands, meteors look a lot like chariots in the sky, dark smoke from a fire looks a lot like pillars of heaven, etc..."<br /><br />I guess that explains why people believe in gravitation and black holes.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-773911279534247082009-06-16T12:56:08.208-07:002009-06-16T12:56:08.208-07:00Tornados look like flying saucers with tractor bea...Tornados look like flying saucers with tractor beams....perhaps that's what is on cave paintings? <br /><br />To the untrained mind:<br /><br />Hallucinations look a lot like miracles, volcanoes look a lot like fiery demons, earthquakes feel a lot like underground snakes, droubt seems a lot like an angry sun god, storms seem a lot like an angry rain god, hurricanes seem a lot like a raging beast of the sea, disease seems a lot like a metaphysical curse, mental disabilities or other abnormalities seems a lot like demon possessions, ships in the distance look a lot like moving islands, meteors look a lot like chariots in the sky, dark smoke from a fire looks a lot like pillars of heaven, etc...Quantum_Fluxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383025356536602044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-36923501341720081812009-06-16T12:28:41.844-07:002009-06-16T12:28:41.844-07:00QF,
"Peer review doesn't exactly allow f...QF,<br /><br />"Peer review doesn't exactly allow for ghosts and goblins, mythical places such as heaven and hell, reincarnation, souls, angels and demons, crystals of chi, nor anything else of a supernatural explanation. Hence, a re-evaluation of the texts is entirely necessary to fit it into some form of naturalistic explanations."<br /><br />Obviously their check wasn't written for a big enough number.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-91167102973508343092009-06-16T12:27:24.682-07:002009-06-16T12:27:24.682-07:00QF,
"There are a lot of religions that have ...QF,<br /><br />"There are a lot of religions that have no historical credibility OIM, including Judaism."<br /><br />According to you only white atheists have historical credibility so I'm puzzled why you believe in creationist gravitation.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.com