tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post4887597600137836186..comments2023-10-29T06:33:26.576-07:00Comments on Oil Is Mastery: Scientists Complete First Expansion Tectonics Map of GanymedeOilIsMasteryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-20318022361845236142009-09-19T23:16:51.323-07:002009-09-19T23:16:51.323-07:00OIM/Anaconda
That's pretty interesting modeli...OIM/Anaconda<br /><br />That's pretty interesting modeling - hmmmmm - pity the Earth as 70% of its surface covered by water.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-6645759338156966022009-09-19T10:36:58.810-07:002009-09-19T10:36:58.810-07:00@Anaconda
You don't agree with plasma accreti...@Anaconda<br /><br /><i>You don't agree with plasma accretion, fine. But it's intellectually dishonest to state there hasn't been a proposed mechanism for expansion on this website.</i><br /><br />Alrighty then, allow me to backpedal wildly for a moment.<br /><br />Okay, you have a mechanism. Call me when it is observed and quantified and shown to match your proposed rate of expansion (65% increase in mass over 200my).Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-79018111894255186702009-09-19T10:16:35.824-07:002009-09-19T10:16:35.824-07:00@ Jeffery Keown:
Keown: "...the Theia impact...@ Jeffery Keown:<br /><br />Keown: "...the Theia impact, for example, that formed the moon would have added mass to the earth."<br /><br />Just goes to show you are a herd animal.<br /><br />The "Theia impact" is speculative at best.<br /><br />There is little science to support the hypothesis (oxygen content of the Moon and Earth), but because consensus has wrapped around it -- well, you have too.<br /><br />But anyway, Ganymede provides an image of tectonic plates where there are expansion areas around every tectonic plate on the entire surface.<br /><br />This leads to the reasonable conclusion that the moon, Ganymede, has expanded.<br /><br />Keown: "Expansion Tectonics is not happening the way you think its happening. Hell, you folks do not have a mechanism."<br /><br />How do you know?<br /><br />And yes, a mechanism has been put forward, that of plasma accretion.<br /><br />You don't agree with plasma accretion, fine. But it's intellectually dishonest to state there hasn't been a proposed mechanism for expansion on this website.<br /><br />Keown, your characterization, "It is not possible in your current hypothesis...", is false.<br /><br />It's not clear how much and at what rate plasma has flowed from the Sun to the Earth.<br /><br />There is evidence that in geologic ages past, and not necessarily long past, the amount and rate of plasma flow was much higher than today.<br /><br />And this doesn't cover matter at the sub neutron, proton, electron level, like neutrinos and such (I'll admit I'm uncomfortable with this sub-world, as most of it is highly theoretical except for neutrinos, which there seems to be a body of scientific evidence to support it's existence).Anacondahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05522474791573134808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-64931854055991497612009-09-19T05:18:22.049-07:002009-09-19T05:18:22.049-07:00So when material is accreted to Ganymede it magica...<i>So when material is accreted to Ganymede it magically disappears?</i><br /><br />There you go again. Using the word magic. There is no such thing. Are you so busy you cannot say things properly?<br /><br />If something accretes to an object (and I'm not sure that is the proper way of saying that either) I should think most of the material remains on site, thus the increase in size. A large portion of it is likely blown off into space if it is imparted enough velocity to escape the gravity of the impactor/impactee. Some material likely rains back down onto the surface of the new body.Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-71926916180172773722009-09-19T05:10:54.967-07:002009-09-19T05:10:54.967-07:00The universe is dynamic not static.
I find myself...<i>The universe is dynamic not static.</i><br /><br />I find myself agreeing with you on that point. However, Expansion Tectonics is not happening the way you think its happening. Hell, you folks do not have a mechanism.<br /><br />At least mainstream science has an an explanation for accretion, the Theia impact, for example, that formed the moon would have added mass to the earth.<br /><br />Objects accrete, then grow exceedingly slowly through dust accumulation and impact, but nowhere near the rate you folks claim. <i>It is not possible in your current hypothesis, and until it is shown to be possible, you'll get no acquiesence from me or anyone else.</i> <br /><br />Note that this post of mine begins a new phase in my rebuttals of your nonsense. No longer am I arguing points with you. I am going to point out where you are wrong and move on. As nothing will dissuade you from your position, I feel compelled to quit trying. I am now Mainstream Science's big neon sign that flashes "STUPID" at you at one in the morning. Its a dirty job, but someone has to do it.Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-78706462765520446332009-09-18T16:27:17.896-07:002009-09-18T16:27:17.896-07:00"It's not changing size in either directi..."It's not changing size in either direction."<br /><br />The universe is dynamic not static.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-32270733842827476912009-09-18T16:25:57.145-07:002009-09-18T16:25:57.145-07:00So when material is accreted to Ganymede it magica...So when material is accreted to Ganymede it magically disappears?OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-81745398550187762052009-09-18T15:57:56.427-07:002009-09-18T15:57:56.427-07:00Not at all. There is no evidence of on-going expan...Not at all. There is no evidence of on-going expansion. It's not changing size in either direction. <br /><br />If something large struck it, the two might accrete into a larger moon, but the solar system has been free of large rogue objects for some time. Look up "Late Heavy Bombardment."Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-85028775560812936302009-09-18T15:53:10.204-07:002009-09-18T15:53:10.204-07:00So when an impact occurs you think Ganymede magica...So when an impact occurs you think Ganymede magically decreases in size?OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-78316719149254989142009-09-18T15:51:42.571-07:002009-09-18T15:51:42.571-07:00"there's no evidence that it's gettin..."there's no evidence that it's getting bigger."<br /><br />LOL.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-64294897157893045912009-09-18T15:45:01.358-07:002009-09-18T15:45:01.358-07:00"Why does plate tectonics occur only on Earth...<i>"Why does plate tectonics occur only on Earth?" </i><br /><br />Water saturated rock melts at a lower temperature than non-saturated rock.<br /><br />I don't see anything in the orginal article about expansion. The various terrains may be fragments of impacts that formed Ganymede, but there's no evidence that it's getting bigger.Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.com