tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post8152608141711358291..comments2023-10-29T06:33:26.576-07:00Comments on Oil Is Mastery: The Ring of GygesOilIsMasteryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-86353586070999385272009-08-03T05:12:24.417-07:002009-08-03T05:12:24.417-07:00Where does the heat come from?
If the mantle is c...Where does the heat come from?<br /><br />If the mantle is cold, and the surface is cool, why is the deep crust so hot as to melt rock?Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-23820872144294999262009-08-01T10:56:56.514-07:002009-08-01T10:56:56.514-07:00Jeffery,
Magma comes from shallow levels in the c...Jeffery,<br /><br />Magma comes from shallow levels <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7780873.stm" rel="nofollow">in the crust</a> of the Earth, not from the cold mantle.<br /><br />Regards.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-39761932158301027172009-08-01T03:06:42.923-07:002009-08-01T03:06:42.923-07:00Where does magma come from? While I've never a...Where does magma come from? While I've never actually picked any up, I understand it is very hot indeed. <br /><br />Please explain. In your own words.Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-22802881328295446082009-07-31T16:32:21.238-07:002009-07-31T16:32:21.238-07:00Jeffery,
"They didn't."
Then I res...Jeffery,<br /><br />"They didn't."<br /><br />Then I rest my case.<br /><br />"Besides, I'm not sure what you mean about a cold mantle."<br /><br />By cold I mean the oppposite of hot. See sidebar for customarily suppressed science.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-69066270320320744802009-07-31T14:49:46.971-07:002009-07-31T14:49:46.971-07:00How did Sonchis, Solon, Dropides, Herodotus, Sopho...<i>How did Sonchis, Solon, Dropides, Herodotus, Sophocles, Euripides, Critias, Philolaus, Democritus, Plato, Crantor, and Proclus, conspire with the Jews Isaiah and Amos, and with the Chinese, and with the Meso and Native Americans and with Von Humboldt living in the opposite hemisphere and in different centuries? Did they conspire against Newton and Darwin with time machines?</i><br /><br />They didn't. I do not beleive in conspiracies of the sort you suggest. That the church banned such thoughts and suppressed knowledge is natural considering many scientists were also theologians until recently. They didn't want the fucking pope pulling a Galileo on them. <br /><br />Besides, a lot of Newton's math is still right, despite the Fixed Stars god-bothering bullshit, and Darwin was merely a good start to 150 years of awesome advancement in biology and pharmeceutical research. <br /><br />Science redefines itself, dogma has to race to catch up. Every single day something new is learned about our universe. While you may not be happy with the current state of research, I for one am happy people like you are merely a tiny minority. There is no racism in science... just good, testable theory and whiny fringe theorists who look to make a buck selling books to crackpots.<br /><br />Besides, I'm not sure what you mean about a cold mantle, I've seen subduction in the data. Data you dismissed as "pretty pictures." <br /><br />Michael Cremo has 13 publications in his CV. In the same period, a random researcher I googled had 35 publications and 3 books. Who's doing science and who's out to make a fucking buck?Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-89433483336257425182009-07-31T11:53:08.894-07:002009-07-31T11:53:08.894-07:00How did Sonchis, Solon, Dropides, Herodotus, Sopho...How did Sonchis, Solon, Dropides, Herodotus, Sophocles, Euripides, Critias, Philolaus, Democritus, Plato, Crantor, and Proclus, conspire with the Jews Isaiah and Amos, and with the Chinese, and with the Meso and Native Americans and with Von Humboldt living in the opposite hemisphere and in different centuries? Did they conspire against Newton and Darwin with time machines?OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-29910605287897606422009-07-31T11:45:38.817-07:002009-07-31T11:45:38.817-07:00How are all non-whites conspiring to believe in go...How are all non-whites conspiring to believe in gods, angels, and giants and to trick you that they existed and perhaps still exist?OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-23194827967523924142009-07-31T11:44:23.238-07:002009-07-31T11:44:23.238-07:00Jeffery,
Furthermore, I submit it is you who beli...Jeffery,<br /><br />Furthermore, I submit it is you who believe in a vast conspiracy. How do all non-whites conspire to trick you that the sun stayed in the sky and that the rotation of the Earth reversed?OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-16253698871561149522009-07-31T11:36:52.656-07:002009-07-31T11:36:52.656-07:00Jeffery,
"How is it that every 'mainstre...Jeffery,<br /><br />"How is it that every 'mainstream' scientist is actually a bald-faced liar?"<br /><br />Because for hundreds and thousands of years they thought that the Sun revolves around the Earth, they thought that the stars are fixed and don't move, they thought that meteorite impacts are impossible, they thought that x-rays will prove to be a hoax, they thought that heavier than air flying machines are gravitationally impossible.<br /><br />Need I go on?<br /><br />"How do they maintain this vast conspiracy?"<br /><br />It's collaboration, not conspiracy.<br />It's not a conspiracy because they are quite open about it.<br /><br />It's called knowledge filtration and peer review censorship. See Michael Cremo on the topic of knowledge filtration. A blatant is example is Fred Hoyle, whose Russel Prize Lecture was returned by a referee and who was deliberately passed over for the Nobel Prize (it was instead awarded to his co-worker William Alfred Fowler). There are literally censors on Wikipedia like Doug Weller, VSmith, and others who work around the clock censoring all dissident science. And the same is true on every mainstream (and even some against the mainstream) internet message board. Bannings and censorship, etc., and they are quite open about their ideological devotion to censorship and bannings. And there are collaborations by professional geologists such as the one launched by Good Schist to suppress information that the mantle is cold.<br /><br />"The problem of demarcation between science and pseudoscience has great implications also for the institutionalization of criticism. Copernicus's theory was banned by the Catholic Church in 1616 because it was said to be pseudoscientific. It was taken off the Index in 1820 because by that time the Church deemed that facts have proved it and therefore it became scientific. The Central Committee of the Soviet Communist Party in 1949 declared Mendelian genetics pseudoscientific and had it's advocates like Academician Vavilov killed in concentration camps." -- Imre Lakatos, philosopher, 1973<br /><br />"Scientists are persons of all colors, creeds, religious inclination, nationality and educational background. Why do they get along so well as to maintain this Big Lie you say they are perpetrating?"<br /><br />They don't. The racist scientists you are referring to are not diverse at all, they are almost 99% white, and they are racist against Jewish, Egyptian, Greek, Chinese, and Native American history and science.OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-44266944933443512872009-07-30T13:37:22.046-07:002009-07-30T13:37:22.046-07:00Skeptic of the Truth & Eternal Optimist(OIM)Skeptic of the Truth & Eternal Optimist(OIM)Quantum_Fluxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383025356536602044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-63987187965034020542009-07-30T02:56:36.992-07:002009-07-30T02:56:36.992-07:00Cambrian Shoeprints? Sorry, you've been had. O...Cambrian Shoeprints? Sorry, you've been had. One of the hazards of beleiving anti-science, is that you occasionally get taken to the cleaners by creationists and folks just wanting to sell books.<br /><br /><i>The "sandal print" is a spall pattern. The heel of the Meister print is not worn down but is caused by a long crack running across the rock. It lacks the diagnostic features that a real sandal print has. There are many other weathering features in the area identical in character to the so-called sandal prints but in a variety of shapes. They do not occur in a trail but as isolated prints (Conrad 1981). <br /><br />Geochemical processes, such as solution penetrations, spalling, and other weathering, have been well documented to produce such features on the shales of the Wheeler Formation, where the prints were found (Stokes 1986).</i> <br />-Talk Origins Archive<br /><br />As for the Triassic Shoeprint:<br /><br /><i>Judging from the available photographs, the specimen is most likely a broken ironstone concretion, perhaps one that has suffered some erosion. </i><br />-Kuban, 2008<br /><br />We're a type of chimp, not some billion-year old species with infinite knowledge of the universe. We're still learning, or at least, some of us are.Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-24242747206696387402009-07-29T16:12:18.871-07:002009-07-29T16:12:18.871-07:00Economist: Huddled Maths...although I don't n...<a href="http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?story_id=14119761" rel="nofollow">Economist: Huddled Maths</a>...although I don't necessarily agree with this method since I think there are plenty of papers that do pass peer review to follow up on, there is apparently still quite the interest in this sort of thing, kind of like looking for the gem in the dung sort of thing.Quantum_Fluxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383025356536602044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-45761927523562375202009-07-29T12:47:27.852-07:002009-07-29T12:47:27.852-07:00How is it that every "mainstream" scient...How is it that every "mainstream" scientist is actually a bald-faced liar? <br /><br />How do they maintain this vast conspiracy? And how did they do it before email?<br /><br />Why does everything they do actually work if the fringe says it does not? I mean, this machine we're communicating on is built on the "facts" these liars are selling, isn't it?<br /><br />Our current civilization is built upon this conspiracy, isn't it?<br /><br />Scientists are persons of all colors, creeds, religious inclination, nationality and educational background. Why do they get along so well as to maintain this Big Lie you say they are perpetrating?Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-40667178143290084692009-07-29T10:15:50.666-07:002009-07-29T10:15:50.666-07:00Jeffery,
"So, from your point of view, if ma...Jeffery,<br /><br />"So, from your point of view, if mainstream science says its BS, then it's a fact."<br /><br />That's probably an accurate statement.<br /><br />"... if you say all the adopted positions are wrong, you'll seldom be wrong." -- Jeremiah P. Ostriker, cosmologist, 1996<br /><br />"Where are the remains of their high-tech civilization?"<br /><br />"I mean, there were huge battles that took place in Europe during World War II. And you can go back to those places now. I mean, there should be, you know, just tons of equipment and stuff lying around. But it's not there. You can hardly find a thing. So I think, over millions of years, there can be a lot of destruction." -- Michael A. Cremo, author, August 2006<br /><br />"We've lots of dinosaur bones from all over that period, but no human bones have ever been found in layers dated more than 1.5 million years."<br /><br />That's absolutely not true. Human shoeprints have been found in Triassic and even Cambrian strata.<br /><br />"They can't all be right."<br /><br />Why not? How about 90%?OilIsMasteryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13457713647671999890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2100054477013501859.post-31685745866955390842009-07-29T09:26:16.349-07:002009-07-29T09:26:16.349-07:00So, from your point of view, if mainstream science...So, from your point of view, if mainstream science says its BS, then it's a fact.<br /><br />Interesting paranoid psychosis you got there. You are a case study just waitin' to happen.<br /><br />On a larger note, you view the Puranas as more of an historical record, the gods described are just heroes; normal men and women who did remarkable things. In this view, high technology prevailed and humans were created (not evolved or anything) 308 million years ago? <br /><br />Where are the remains of their high-tech civilization? We've lots of dinosaur bones from all over that period, but no human bones have ever been found in layers dated more than 1.5 million years. <br /><br />Pardon my confusion, but while the Gupta Empire was advanced for the time, I don't think they knew anything about the stealth aircraft and invisibility rings and mp3 players of prehistory. This all came down to them as oral history, if you'll recall. <br /><br />Let's face it, they were the Roman Empire of Central Asia, with high-end literature, philosophy and math. (Or perhaps the Romans were the Gupta's of Europe?)<br /><br />Is the Bible also just as accurate? and the Mountain Chant of the southwest US? Which holy texts are historical and which do you disgard as nonsense? <br /><br />Or are you so far up Velikovsky's ass that you think all religious texts are highly accurate, historical views and/or eyewitness accounts? They can't all be right.<br /><br />I mean, vimanas are cool and all that, but where are they?Jeffery Keownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830696980569654768noreply@blogger.com