Science Daily: Maya Intensively Cultivated Manioc 1,400 Years Ago.
ScienceDaily (June 17, 2009) — A University of Colorado at Boulder team has uncovered an ancient and previously unknown Maya agricultural system -- a large manioc field intensively cultivated as a staple crop that was buried and exquisitely preserved under a blanket of ash by a volcanic eruption in present-day El Salvador 1,400 years ago.Sounds catastrophic imo.
Calculations by Sheets indicate the Ceren planting fields would have produced roughly 10 metric tons of manioc annually for the 100 to 200 villagers believed to have lived there. "The question now is what these people in the village were doing with all that manioc that was harvested all at once," he said. "Even if they were gorging themselves, they could not have consumed that much."You mean ignorant savages can actually trade their surplus? That's impossible.
Since indigenous peoples in tropical South America use manioc today to brew alcoholic beverages, including beer, the CU-Boulder team will be testing ceramic vessels recovered from various structures at Ceren for traces of manioc. To date, 12 structures have been excavated, and others detected by ground-penetrating radar remain buried, he said.What would a savage need alcohol for?
OIM,
ReplyDeletealso get copies of Gavin Menzies books, 1421 and 1434.
The Mayan's might not have been as we think. While they became "extinct", and all we have are historical leftovers, I would not paint them in a Roussian palette at this point in time.
Louis,
ReplyDeleteWill have to have a look at those as well.
Rousseau's noble savage is a myth. There is nothing noble about ripping and tearing the hearts out of little girls and there is nothing savage about geometry and astronomy. I say the truth is in the middle.
1421 is amazing.
ReplyDeleteI'm just wonder here, OIM, who exactly you think it is that doesn't believe in volcanism or other catastrophic natural disasters?
ReplyDeleteUniformitarian antisemites (e.g. Richard Dawkins) don't believe in catastrophic natural disasters. Uniformitarians lost the debate but still don't believe in meteorite/cometary impact craters and they think the catastrophists (all non-whites and Jews) are crazy.
ReplyDeleteThe apparent lack of use of wheels except as computers in their society is a massive oddity. Given world wide commerce, they had to have been aware of the use for transport? They used lamas for pack animals and could easily have drawn carts etc, but apparently did not. The horse was also an innovation that apparently took them by surprize. I trust Spanish Roman Catholic scribes only a little but why would they suppress these, suggesting that their absence is an anomaly.
ReplyDeleteUniformitarian antisemites (e.g. Richard Dawkins) don't believe in catastrophic natural disasters. Uniformitarians lost the debate but still don't believe in meteorite/cometary impact craters and they think the catastrophists (all non-whites and Jews) are crazy.
ReplyDeleteYa just had to write some shit so fucking crazy it would draw me out again... Fine.
Heard of Chixulub? There isn't a credible biologist that doubts it. You may have heard of it. Just in case you were absent that day, it's the backbone of the dinosaur/bird transition theory. Thera Impact? The Moon's formation?Iceball Earth... Permian Extinction... Deccan Traps? The Oxygen tipping point? The African Human population bottle-neck? Ancient Deforestation of Africa some 8 million years ago?? All disasters driving the evolution of life on this planet. Without catastophes, you do not have developed life. You do not mean the things you type. You couldn't. You mean this sort of tripe as a metaphor for one of two things:
1. You are a loon.
2. You'll say anything to dig at those you consider the opposition.
Neither of these gives you an ounce of credibility.
Next you'll present Chinese history written by a man who can't read or speak it.
Too late.
Hi Jeffery,
ReplyDeleteI'm happy to see that I didn't scare you away with words...=)
"Heard of Chixulub?"
I have heard of Chicxulub. It's in Mexico which means most scientists have no idea what it is.
"There isn't a credible biologist that doubts it."
No one ever accused the Jew-hater Richard Dawkins of being credible.
"Just in case you were absent that day, it's the backbone of the dinosaur/bird transition theory."
Boltzer, A., Yucatan Asteroid Didn't Kill Dinosaurs Study Says, National Geographic News, Mar 2004
O'Hanlon, L., Study: Notorious Asteroid Didn't Kill Dinos, Discovery News, Nov 2004
"All disasters driving the evolution of life on this planet. Without catastophes, you do not have developed life."
Richard Dawkins must've been absent in school that day.
"Catastrophism was an eighteenth -- and nineteenth -- century attempt to reconcile some form of creationism with the uncomfortable facts of the fossil record." -- Richard Dawkins, biologist, 1986
Dawkins wrote a good book on the selfish gene, but his anthropomorphism continued into the TV series that showed incredibly bad taste. Damaged him and in many eyes, his theories.
ReplyDeleteThe telling of the tale of the chinese admiral who sailed an armada around the world was a revelation to me a few years ago. TV has its uses.... Why they never followed it up with further contact is a mystery. It might explain how the Piri Reis map got into Portuguese hands?