Friday, June 25, 2010

China: 6,500 B.C.



"There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after." -- Ecclesiastes 1:11

BBC (April 2003): 'Earliest writing' found in China.

Signs carved into 8,600-year-old tortoise shells found in China may be the earliest written words, say archaeologists.

The symbols were laid down in the late Stone Age, or Neolithic Age.

They predate the earliest recorded writings from Mesopotamia - in what is now Iraq - by more than 2,000 years.

The archaeologists say they bear similarities to written characters used thousands of years later during the Shang dynasty, which lasted from 1700-1100 BC.

But the discovery has already generated controversy, with one leading researcher in the field branding it "an anomaly".

The archaeologists have identified 11 separate symbols inscribed on the tortoise shells.

The shells were found buried with human remains in 24 Neolithic graves unearthed at Jiahu in Henan province, western China.

The site has been radiocarbon dated to between 6,600 and 6,200 BC.

The research was carried out by Dr Garman Harbottle, of the Brookhaven National Laboratory in New York, US, and a team of archaeologists at the University of Science and Technology of China, in Anhui province.

"What [the markings] appear to show are meaningful signs that have a correspondence with ancient Chinese writing," said Dr Harbottle.

The Neolithic markings include symbols that resemble the characters for "eye" and "window" and the numerals eight and 20 in the Shang script.

"If you pick up a bottle with a skull and crossbones on it, you know instantly that it's poison without the word being spelt out. We're used to signs that convey concepts and I wouldn't be surprised if that's what we're seeing here," Dr Harbottle told BBC News Online. ... The research is published in the journal Antiquity.
Understandably, mainstream Darwinist fundamentalist pseudoscientists feel threatened by actual physical evidence and responded predictably and emotionally: Archaeologists Rewrite History.

The researchers have won support from some archaeologists but been challenged by others, who call their hypothesis "nonsense."

"There is nothing new here," Robert Murowchick, a Boston University archaeologist told Science magazine. He reportedly dismissed the notion "simple geometric signs" can be linked to early writing.
I agree with Sophist Murowchick that "there is nothing new here."

"... there is no new thing under the sun." -- Ecclesiastes 1:9

In fact there is something quite old here.

"Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us." -- Ecclesiastes 1:10

10 comments:

  1. mainstream Darwinist fundamentalist pseudoscientists

    Your parody of actual science is reaching ridiculous proportions. I'm glad I realized this site is a joke. Took me long enough, didn't it?

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  2. It wasn't until you used Radka as a "historian" that I was finally convinced.

    The true purpose of this website is to expose all the crazy stuff out there. You act like all fringe science is real, when in fact, you do not take a bit of it seriously.

    You had me going for a bit, didn't you?

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  3. Only someone as fundamentally dogmatic as you would refer to the Encyclopaedia Britannica as "fringe science."

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  4. I'm sure the EB is fine, but Expanding Earth, Electric Sun and Comet Venus are all bullshit and you know it.

    I'm now convinced that you are merely providing contrast to all the crazy stuff on the web, and throw in the occasional real science to make it appear that you mean business.

    Oh... and on the subject of my dogmatism, I never bought Abiotic Oil until you introduced me to it. I've come to agree with you on that, but with experts like Cremo and Radka on your list of luminaries, that must also be a waste of time.

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  5. What you don't seem to understand is that I would also add janitors at McDonalds to my list of luminaries if I thought that what they were saying is true.

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  6. So you really do believe that Venus was expelled by Jupiter 3,000 years ago, billiarded around the solar system and settled into the most perfectly circular orbit of the eight major planets, that a smaller Earth once orbited Saturn, mankind is billions of years old and no lifeform has ever evolved?

    I'm sorry, no one can be that gullible. I do not believe it. You are joking. Next, you'll be telling us what Democritus or some other ancient boy-toucher thinks about the President's birth certificate.

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  7. Your sloppy, lazy, and prejuducial way of thinking (or rather lack thereof) even shines through in casual conversation such as when you refer to a known heterosexual and celibate like Democritus and other Greeks as "ancient boy touchers."

    Your fallacy seems to be this: ancient + Greek = pedophile. This utter lack of any Aristotelian logic is systematic with you.

    For someone who hates religion so much, you sure have a lot in common with fundamentalists like Fred Phelps: http://www.priestsrapeboys.com/

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  8. Wow. Phelps? Really?

    You mistake humor for deeply held beliefs.

    The point is your views on science amount to creationism. (Which is odd, since you reject the Big Bang as creationism, based only on its originator's religion) It's an odd sort of Hindi creationism, based on plasma physics (the universe has always existed) and vedic nonsense that Cremo espouses (humanity is billions of years old).

    Your God is an extraterrestrial, who engineered mankind (and every single other lifeform on the planet, requiring no evolution at all), Jesus was a hybrid critter of some sort (who you nevertheless thank for forgiving your sins), and you think that science is a religion, though you look to religion for your science.

    Your criteria seem to be based on whether the mainstream community buys into it. If they don't, then you do. You do not quote from actual experimental science, but rather you dig into people's opinions, Arp's goofy line-of-sight "clearly interacting" quasars and half a dozen other disproven hypotheses.

    You can go on with your toy science and your half-witted experts, as for me, I'm going to keep watching science evolve, and correct itself; I'm going to keep watching mankind advance. You can keep being a parody of open-mindedness and misplaced conspiracy paranoia and victimization.

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  9. I give you partial credit for your analysis here...=)

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