Saturday, March 19, 2011

Texas Considers Protecting Those Who Question Darwin

Texas is considering legal protection for creationists who face academic discrimination from Darwinist bigots.

Unruh, B., Texas Considers Protecting Those Who Question Darwin, World Net Daily, March 19th 2011
A Texas lawmaker has proposed a legal protection for those in academia who question Charles Darwin's beliefs that man evolved from sludge and today's world is a result of the survival of the fittest.

State Rep. Bill Zedler told WND today that his House Bill 2454 is a pre-emptive effort to make sure problems don't arise in Texas with established scientific communities discriminating against someone who challenges their beliefs

His plan is short and to the point:

An institution of higher education may not discriminate against or penalize in any manner, especially with regard to employment or academic support, a faculty member or student based on the faculty member's or student's conduct of research relating to the theory of intelligent design or other alternate theories of the origination and development of organisms.

"Isn't it amazing in the halls of academia you can almost believe anything and espouse everything and they go right along with you. But lo and behold if someone talks about intelligent design, all of a sudden, we need to get rid of you," Zedler told WND.

Such actions already have been documented, and have produced court cases.

But is man really just a product of cosmic accidents and processes? Get Ray Comfort's "Nothing Created Everything" to expose the inconsistencies of evolution theory.

In Texas, it was several years ago that Baylor University Professor Bob Marks, whose research indicated a challenge to Darwin's theory of evolution, was ordered taken off the Internet by his employer.

Walt Ruloff, the executive producer of Premise Media, who worked with actor Ben Stein on the project called "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed," about the monopoly Darwinian beliefs hold in academia, wrote in the Baylor student newspaper about his concerns at the time.

"As many of you have heard, Marks, a distinguished professor of electrical and computer engineering, has been conducting research that ultimately may challenge the foundation of Darwinian theory. In layman's terms, Marks is using highly sophisticated mathematical and computational techniques to determine if there are limits to what natural selection can do," he wrote. "At Baylor, a Christian institution, this should be pretty unremarkable stuff. I'm assuming most of the faculty, students and alumni believe in God, so wouldn't it also be safe to assume you have no problem with a professor trying to scientifically quantify the limits of a blind, undirected cause of the origin and subsequent history of life?

"But the dirty little secret is university administrators are much more fearful of the Darwinian Machine than they are of you," he said.

Zedler said the flow of research and information in academia sometimes is stifled because of the entrenched censorship of intelligent design questions by established scientists.

WND has reported on several other cases in which the intense criticism of anything related to intelligence design has created controversy. In one case, a NASA lab was accused of cracking down on one person's opinion.

David Coppedge, an information-technology specialist and systems administrator on the NASA Jet Propulsion Lab's Cassini mission to Saturn, contended he was discriminated against by managers and demoted because he shared intelligent design videos with co-workers.

"For the offense of offering videos to colleagues, Coppedge faced harassment, an investigation cloaked in secrecy and a virtual gag order on his discussion of intelligent design," said attorney Casey Luskin of Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture.

Luskin was consultant to the Coppedge lawsuit, which was being handled by Los Angeles First Amendment attorney William J. Becker Jr. of the Becker Law Firm and included allegations of free-speech violations and wrongful demotion.

"Coppedge was punished even though supervisors admitted never receiving a single complaint regarding his conversations about intelligent design prior to their investigation, and even though other employees were allowed to express diverse ideological opinions, including attacking intelligent design," Luskin said.

Zedler's proposal has been referred to committee and he couldn't provide to WND an estimate for when, or if, it could reach the House floor for debate and vote. He said sometimes the politics are more important than the issue.

But he said the issue is something that needs to be raised as the dominance of the opinion supporting evolution in colleges and universities leaves those who disagree, or even just have questions, as targets.

"There are people that want to say something but [are] afraid to because there are people around the country that have been discriminated against," Zedler said.

It was just weeks ago when the University of Texas paid a settlement of $125,000 to astronomy professor Martin Gaskell, who alleged he was denied a position at least partly because he expressed questions about evolution.

He told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, "I think that it is important that the state of Texas stands firmly behind academic freedom."

Also, WND reported when Iowa State University regents, who had ruled against accepting evidence or hearing testimony from a professor in a dispute over the school's denial of his tenure, turned down his appeal.

The case involved Guillermo Gonzalez, an honored assistant professor of astronomy who had been actively working on theories of intelligent design, an effort that ultimately cost him his job, supporters say. Tenure is roughly the equivalent of a lifetime appointment.

The school has continued to deny the handling of Gonzalez' case was related to his support of ID, even though the Des Moines Register documented emails that confirmed Gonzalez' colleagues wanted him flushed out of the system for that reason.

"I think Gonzalez should know that some of the faculty in his department are not going to count his ID work as a plus for tenure," said one note, from astronomy teacher Bruce Harmon, before the department voted against tenure for Gonzalez. "Quite the opposite."

The newspaper reported what was revealed in emails was "contrary" to what ISU officials said when they rejected Gonzalez' request for tenure.

WND also reported recently on biochemist Christian de Duve, who suggested the forces of natural selection in evolution instilled mankind with an innate "original sin" that if not overcome could lead to humanity's extinction.

De Duve, a professor emeritus at New York City's Rockefeller University and 1974 winner of the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, said in an interview with NewScientist that the essential problem … is selfishness.

"Natural selection has resulted in traits such as group selfishness being coded in our genes," de Duve explains. "These were useful to our ancestors under the conditions in which they lived, but have become noxious to us today."

Unfortunately, de Duve says, that while evolution favored the survival of early tribes with a me-first nature, there are dire consequences to the success of a selfish race.

Put more simply, he says, natural selection "doesn't care about your grandchildren."

"The cost of our success is the exhaustion of natural resources, leading to energy crises, climate change, pollution and the destruction of our habitat," he continues. "If we continue in the same direction, humankind is headed for some frightful ordeals, if not extinction."

De Duve has written a book, "Genetics of Original Sin," in which he explains how he sees the intersection of his theories with the Bible.


Jeffery Keown said...

Let's see...

World Net Daily - Conservatively bias internet tabloid devoid of skeptics.

Charles Darwin's beliefs that man evolved from sludge and today's world is a result of the survival of the fittest.

This is not true in any sense.

...scientific communities discriminating against someone who challenges their beliefs..

Evolution is not a matter of belief. It is a matter of observation and evidence. Would you let a geocentrist teach astronomy?

An institution of higher education may not discriminate against or penalize in any manner, especially with regard to employment or academic support, a faculty member or student based on the faculty member's or student's conduct of research relating to the theory of intelligent design or other alternate theories of the origination and development of organisms.

So a kid can answer "God did it" on a test and still pass?

if someone talks about intelligent design, all of a sudden, we need to get rid of you

Not all of a sudden, just since 1789 or so...Church and state, my friend.

Simply put, the Intelligent Design community can't get it through their heads that you cannot promote religion with goverment funds. Wanna talk ID? Do it at church.

I do not want alchemy taught in chemistry class, I do not want astrology taught in astronomy class, and you can keep ID out of biology, it is not science, it is religion.

OilIsMastery said...

In response to:

"This is not true in any sense."

We know.

"Evolution is not a matter of belief."

In fact, it is.

"It is a matter of observation and evidence."

In fact, it's not.

"Evolution itself is accepted by zoologists not because it has been observed to occur or is supported by logically coherent arguments, but because ... no alternative explanation [i.e. Intelligent Design] is credible." -- D.M.S. Watson, zoology professor, evolution chair at University of London, Nature, Volume 123, Pages 231-234, Aug 1929

"Would you let a geocentrist teach astronomy?"


"Since we have already proved through geometrical considerations the equivalence of all hypotheses with respect to the motions of any bodies whatsoever, however numerous, moved only by the collision with other bodies, it follows that not even an angel could determine with mathematical rigor which of the many bodies of that sort is at rest, and which is the center of motion for the others." -- Gottfried W. Leibniz, polymath, 1689

"Wanna talk ID? Do it at church."

Wanna talk evolution? Do it on Wikipedia.

"I do not want alchemy taught in chemistry class"

I do. Rutherford proved the alchemical transmutation of elements in 1919 when he transmuted nitrogen into oxygen and hydrogen by bombarding it with helium. Thus it's no wonder why Democritus, Boyle, and Newton devoted themselves to the science of alchemy now called chemistry.

"it is not science, it is religion."

"The presence or absence of a creative super-intelligence is unequivocally a scientific question...." -- Richard Dawkins, atheist preacher, The God Delusion, 2006

OilIsMastery said...

"Church and state, my friend."

Not a law my friend. Nowhere in the Constitution. Rather the First Amendment protects creationists from Darwinist bigots in government.

"Simply put, the Intelligent Design community can't get it through their heads that you cannot promote religion with goverment funds."

As it is now, Darwinist atheists have a government enforced monopoly on education funds.

Jeffery Keown said...


You support your argument against evidence and logical reasoned positions regarding evolution with a quote from 1929?

1929 — Edward Doisy and Adolf Butenandt independently discovered estrone.
1930 — John Howard Northrop showed that the pepsin enzyme is a protein.
1931 — Adolf Butenandt discovered androsterone.
1932 — Hans Adolf Krebs discovered the urea cycle.
1933 — Tadeus Reichstein artificially synthesized vitamin C; first vitamin synthesis.
1935 — Rudolf Schoenheimer used deuterium as a tracer to examine the fat storage system of rats.
1935 — Wendell Stanley crystallized the tobacco mosaic virus.
1935 — Konrad Lorenz described the imprinting behavior of young birds.
1937 — Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin discovered the three-dimensional structure of cholesterol.
1937 — Hans Adolf Krebs discovered the tricarboxylic acid cycle.
1937 — In Genetics and the Origin of Species, Theodosius Dobzhansky applies the chromosome theory and population genetics to natural populations in the first mature work of neo-Darwinism, also called the modern synthesis, a term coined by Julian Huxley.
1938 — A living coelacanth was found off the coast of southern Africa.
1940 — Donald Griffin and Robert Galambos announced their discovery of echolocation by bats.
1942 — Max Delbruck and Salvador Luria demonstrated that bacterial resistance to virus infection is caused by random mutation and not adaptive change.
1944 — Oswald Avery shows that DNA carried the hereditary information in pneumococcus bacteria.
1944 — Robert Burns Woodward and William von Eggers Doering synthesized quinine.
1945 — Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin discovered the three-dimensional structure of penicillin.
1948 — Erwin Chargaff showed that in DNA the number of guanine units equals the number of cytosine units and the number of adenine units equals the number of thymine units.
1951 — Robert Woodward synthesized cholesterol and cortisone.
1952 — American developmental biologists Robert Briggs and Thomas King cloned the first vertebrate by transplanting nuclei from leopard frogs embryos into enucleated eggs. More differentiated cells were the less able they are to direct development in the enucleated egg.
1952 — Alfred Hershey and Martha Chase showed that DNA is the genetic material in bacteriophage viruses.
1952 — Fred Sanger, Hans Tuppy, and Ted Thompson completed their chromatographic analysis of the insulin amino acid sequence.
1952 — Rosalind Franklin concluded that DNA is a double helix with a diameter of 2 nm and the sugar-phosphate backbones on the outside of the helix, based on x ray diffraction studies. She suspected the two sugar-phosphate backbones have a peculiar relationship to each other.
1953 — After examining Franklin's unpublished data, James D. Watson and Francis Crick published a double-helix structure for DNA, with one sugar-phosphate backbone running in the opposite direction to the other. They further suggested a mechanism by which the molecule can replicate itself and serve to transmit genetic information. Their paper, combined with the Hershey-Chase experiment and Chargaff's data on nucleotides, finally persuaded biologists that DNA is the genetic material, not protein.
1953 — Max Perutz and John Kendrew determined the structure of hemoglobin using X-ray diffraction studies.

Jeffery Keown said...

1953 — Stanley Miller showed that amino acids can be formed when simulated lightning is passed through vessels containing water, methane, ammonia, and hydrogen
1954 — Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin discovered the three-dimensional structure of vitamin B12.
1955 — Marianne Grunberg-Manago and Severo Ochoa discovered the first nucleic-acid-synthesizing enzyme (polynucleotide phosphorylase), which links nucleotides together into polynucleotides.
1955 — Arthur Kornberg discovered DNA polymerase enzymes.
1958 — Matthew Stanley Meselson and Franklin W. Stahl proved that DNA replication is semiconservative in the Meselson-Stahl experiment
1959 — Severo Ochoa and Arthur Kornberg received the Nobel Prize for their work.
1959 — Max Perutz described the structure of hemoglobin, the oxygen-carrying protein in blood.
1960 — John Kendrew described the structure of myoglobin, the oxygen-carrying protein in muscle.
1960 — Four separate researchers (S. Weiss, J. Hurwitz, Audrey Stevens and J. Bonner) discovered bacterial RNA polymerase, which polymerizes nucleotides under the direction of DNA.
1960 — Robert Woodward synthesized chlorophyll.
1961 — J. Heinrich Matthaei cracked the first codon of the genetic code (the codon for the amino acid phenylalanine) using Grunberg-Manago's 1955 enzyme system for making polynucleotides.
1961 — Joan Oró found that concentrated solutions of ammonium cyanide in water can produce the nucleotide adenine, a discovery that opened the way for theories on the origin of life.
1962 — Max Perutz and John Kendrew shared the Nobel prize for their work on the structure of hemoglobin and myoglobin.
1965 — Genetic code fully cracked through trial-and-error experimental work.
1966 — Kimishige Ishizaka discovered a new type of immunoglobulin, IgE, that develops allergy and explains the mechanisms of allergy at molecular and cellular levels.
1966 — Lynn Margulis proposed the endosymbiotic theory, that the eukaryotic cell is a symbiotic union of primitive prokaryotic cells. Richard Dawkins called the theory "one of the great achievements of twentieth-century evolutionary biology."
1967 — John Gurdon used nuclear transplantation to clone an African Clawed Frog; first cloning of a vertebrate using a nucleus from a fully differentiated adult cell.
1968 — Fred Sanger used radioactive phosphorus as a tracer to chromatographically decipher a 120 base long RNA sequence.
1969 — Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin deciphered the three-dimensional structure of insulin.

Jeffery Keown said...

That was just Biology. Here's Paleontology.

1929 - The first remains of Homo erectus found in China. Chinese specimens were discovered in a cave at Zhoukoudian near Peking and named Sinanthropus pekinensis (‘Chinese man of Peking’). In the 1950s these specimens, and the ones from Java, were placed in the one species, Homo erectus.
1938 –Paranthropus robustus remains first discovered in South Africa.
Many of these fossils were originally given different names, which led to a confusing family tree. In the 1950s they were reclassified into the one species, Paranthropus robustus.
1959 - Remains of Paranthropus boisei found by the Leakeys in Olduvai Gorge.
1964 - Homo habilis announced as a new species after remains were discovered in Olduvai Gorge in 1960.
1972 - Specimen KNM-ER 1470 found in East Turkana. Originally thought to be Homo habilis, this specimen was reclassified as Homo rudolfensis in 1986 and made the type specimen of that species.
1974 - Discovery of ‘Lucy’ in Hadar, Ethiopia.
In 1978 this specimen, and a number of other remains from Laetoli, Tanzania, and Hadar, Ethiopia, was classified as a new species, Australopithecus afarensis.
1975 - Specimen KNM-ER 3733 found in East Africa. This specimen was initially considered to be an African Homo erectus, but many now classify it as Homo ergaster.
1984 - Discovery in Kenya of an almost complete Homo ergaster skeleton, nicknamed the ‘Turkana Boy’.
1991 - discovery of fossils at Dmanisi in Georgia, dated to 1.8 million years old and tentatively assigned to the species Homo ergaster.
1995 - Ardipithecus ramidus announced as a new species after fossil remains were found in Ethiopia.
1996 - Australopithecus bahreghazali described as a new species after remains were discovered at Bahr el Ghazalin Chad.
1995 - Announcement of a new species, Australopithecus anamensis after remains were discovered in Kenya.
1997 - Homo antecessor announced as a new species after remains were found in Gran Dolina, Spain.

1999 - Australopithecus garhi announced as a new species after parts of a skull were discovered in Bouri, Ethiopia in 1997.
2000 - Discovery of a well-preserved skeleton of a young Australopithecus afarensis, nicknamed 'Lucy's baby', in Ethiopia.
2001 - Kenyanthropus platyops announced as a new species after the discovery of a skull in Kenya in 1999.

2001 - Announcement of a new species, Orrorin tugenensis, after fossils were discovered in Kenya in 2000.
This is the earliest dated fossil (6 million years old) that may be an ancestor of humans.
2001 - Ardipithecus kadabba announced as a new species. Remains of this species were found in Ethiopia over a number of seasons from 1997-2000.
2002 - Sahelanthropus tchadensis announced as a new species. It was discovered in Chad in 2001 and dates to about 6-7 million years old.
2004 - Homo floresiensis, a type of dwarf human discovered on the Indonesian island of Flores, is announced as a new species. Fossils date from about 12,000 to 100,000 years old, making this a contemporary of modern humans.
2009 - Publication of study of Ardipithicus ramidus skeleton, first found in 1994. The skeleton provides the first substantial fossil evidence about the appearance of the last human-chimp common ancestor and confirms that living African apes do not much resemble this ancestor, as was commonly thought.
2010 - Publication of a new species Australopithecus sediba. The first specimen was discovered in 2008 at Malapa in South Africa. Remains date to about 1.8 million years old.
2010 - release of nuclear DNA analysis carried out on a finger bone and tooth from Denisova cave, Russia (found in 2008) reveals the remains come from a species that is neither Homo sapiens or Homo neanderthalensis.

Jeffery Keown said...

Not a law my friend. Nowhere in the Constitution. Rather the First Amendment protects creationists from Darwinist bigots in government.

Expand on that. It doesn't make any sense.

OilIsMastery said...

All of that might look very impressive to you, but I can guarantee you from the majority's perspective it's all absolutely irrelevant.

Only 16% of Americans accept atheistic evolution, even though it was illegal to teach 100% of them anything else in public school biology class.

OilIsMastery said...

The phrase "separation of Church and State" appears nowhere in the United States Constitution, nowhere in U.S. law that's been voted upon, and nowhere in the First Amendment.

Jeffery Keown said...

Honestly, the fact that the majority do not accept it does not in any way reflect on its being true or not.

We do not vote the truth into office, nor does your faith entitle you to teach nonsense to kids.

OilIsMastery said...

The public schools will fail if Darwinist fundamentalists like you do not allow academic freedom and diversity of opinion. Parents will simply send their kids to parochial schools or homeschool their children.

OilIsMastery said...

Fortunately Darwinists are only 16% of the American population, so their government enforced monopoly on education isn't going to last.

Jeffery Keown said...

It's funny, last week, when it suited your support of EE bullshit, you believed that shrew moles evolved.

But in the name of "Academic Freedom" (a term that actually means Christian Theocracy) you do not support it.

Creationists have been predicting the "Downfall of Darwinism" since the very day Origin was published. I do not think we're going anywhere.

Jeffery Keown said...

"As an illustration of the change of thought, [Thomas Kimber] spoke of evolution's failure as a strong theory and the downfall of Darwinism. When the theory came out it was seized upon with avidity, and most of the great scholars examined it and accepted it. Now they had given it up. Prof. Virchow in the Edinburgh celebration said evolution had no scientific basis. No skull had yet been found differing to any extent from the general type. Prof. Tyndall had lately said that 'evolution belongs to the twilight of conjecture.' Prof. Huxley, at first one if its strongest advocates, said the link between the living the the not living had not been found. It must be found to prove the evolution theory." "Thomas Kimber's Lecture on Science in Relation to Divine Truths," The New York Times, Nov 25, 1884.

Not exactly the day of release (rather distant from it) but you folks have been crowing about the "Downfall" for quite a while, and its still not happening.

Quantum_Flux said...

Doesn't sperm = sludge though?

john bailo said...

If these guys believe in evolution so much, then why don't they let the memes compete?

Seems like only when an "intelligent" overseer forces belief, can the theory of evolution dominate.

In a Free Market of Ideas, competing memes arise.

Jeffery Keown said...

"Competing Memes"

It's not a matter of a free market. Everyone wants to "buy" creationism. That puts our schoolkids believing:

.:Earth is 6000 years old

.:Humans are specially created by God - and Christians are even more special

.:We do not have to care for the Earth, as Global Warming wouldn't be allowed by a loving God

.:Additionally, we won't be running out of resources, as the Rapture is right around the corner.

Jeffery Keown said...

Evolutionists will go "Oh, it just happened by chance." Today we know that's false. Today we know that even a single-celled organism is hugely complex. When was the last time we've seen someone go into a windstorm or a tornado or any other kind of natural disaster, and say "Guess what? That windstorm just created a watch." - Bill Zedler Mother Jones, March 21st, 2011

Zedler wants to "protect" Creationists, but won't present a bill to protect women in the workplace. This is the sort of person you want arguing your side of the debate?

Fungus FitzJuggler III said...

JK, sorry but like me, you have a second rate mind!

Lists and beliefs do not constitute science. There is as yet no proof of evolution of humans. Natural selection may exist, black moths survive in sooty areas, but that is only part of the evolutionary belief. It may be that evidence of the evolution of man exists elsewhere than on earth. It has not yet been found here.

Discrimination on the basis of irrelevant factors is mere bullying.

Shame on you!