"You know we receive an education in the schools from books. All those books that people became educated from twenty-five years ago, are wrong now, and those that are good now, will be wrong again twenty-five years from now. So if they are wrong then, they are also wrong now, and the one who is educated from the wrong books is not educated, he is misled. All books that are written are wrong, the one who is not educated cannot write a book and the one who is educated, is really not educated but he is misled and the one who is misled cannot write a book that is correct." -- Edward Leedskalnin, stone mason, 1936
"Everything I'm gonna present to you was not in my textbooks when I went to school. And most of it was not even in my college textbooks. I'm a geophysicist and (all my earth science books) when I was a student I had to give the wrong answer to get an A. We used to ridicule continental drift. It was something we laughed at." -- Robert D. Ballard, oceanographer, May 2008
"Ignorance of all things is an evil neither terrible nor excessive, nor yet the greatest of all; but great cleverness and much learning, if they be accompanied by a bad training, are a much greater misfortune."
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Is it not fascinating that without the education, OIM would not be able to read all the stuff without comprehension, and would not be peddling his own brand of UFO creationism and beamfucking of brains?
ReplyDeleteWell, math is never wrong at least.
ReplyDeleteQF,
ReplyDeleteMath is often wrong.
"You know the more you have to calculate, the higher the chance of you making [a] mistake. Because you are human. And calculations can cause human mistakes." -- Roman Dzindzichashvili, chess player, 2004
And Euclidean and Lobachevskian geometry both contradict Riemannian geometry.
"... [Kurt] Gödel exposed the 'Queen of the Sciences' as nothing more than a common harlot. The meticulous proofs of mathematics had no more to do with higher truths than the steps of popular parlor games. There were reports of mathematicians committing suicide after reading his proof." -- Dennis W. Hauck, alchemist, Jun 2004
ReplyDelete"Quoting something one knows nothing about makes him /herself the ignorant and misled one."
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OiM, what makes "Reimannian Geometry," "correct" and the others "wrong?"
Technically, QF is correct. If one thinks about it logically, Mathematics are Universal! One can use different numerical systems but they all end up with the same result.
For example, Pythagoras obtained his famed formula from the Pyramids of Khufu. Two cultures separated by land, time and languages, and, yet, the mathematics is the SAME! 2+2=4; a^2+b^2=c^2 ALWAYS!!
Raptor Lewis,
ReplyDelete"OiM, what makes 'Reimannian Geometry,' 'correct' and the others 'wrong?'"
Riemannian geometry will never be correct because it is wrong.
Our intuition is Euclidean not Noneuclidean.
And Euclidean geometry is real because people construct houses using straight lines, triangles, and parrallel lines.
Therefore Noneuclidean geometry is mathematically absurd and we have a geometric proposition to prove this is so, namely Lobachevsky Theorem 20.
OIM, you wrote:
ReplyDeleteRiemannian geometry will never be correct because it is wrong.
Refute this:
Riemannian geometry will always be correct because it is right.
OiM-
ReplyDeleteYou just contradicted yourself! You DO know that, right? Or are you trying to make a point? Are you saying that those who think that Mathematics isn't universal are delusional idiots? Of course, we think in Euclidean terms because it has been proven perpetually for centuries and millenia.