Thursday, April 16, 2009

A Sea of Holes

The holes are in their logic. Stephen Smith: A Sea of Holes.

A recent announcement by scientists from the Max Planck Institute has added another wrinkle to the fabric of black hole physics, the ejection of a “supermassive” black hole from its parent galaxy. Researchers in the department of Extraterrestrial Physics measured what appear to be gravity waves from the so-called “ejection event”.

According to conventional cosmological theories, black holes are formed when a star with a mass approximately five times that of our sun uses up its thermonuclear fuel and collapses under the force of its own gravity. Because the equations that describe gravity can be manipulated in irrational ways, some solutions imply that such a large star can contract into a zero volume containing infinite inertial mass. Astrophysicists have contended for years that black holes are real and that their effects can be observed, although they are invisible to detection.

As the theories suggest, black holes possess a gravitational attraction of such intensity that not even electromagnetic radiation can escape the event horizon. Thus, no direct evidence of a black hole’s existence can be measured, only the hypothetical effects of the extreme gravity. Such effects are said to be gamma ray emissions, x-rays and extreme ultraviolet radiation [note that all the effects are electromagnetic] from the gases and dust as they are compressed into smaller and smaller spaces before being drawn down into oblivion.

According to the team from Max Planck, gravity waves of colossal magnitude spread out from Quasar SDSS J092712.65+294344.0 as it ejected a few hundred million solar masses of gravitational energy from its nucleus. Gravity waves are another theoretical construct with no observational evidence to confirm their existence. They are inferred by the detection of broad-spectrum emission lines from the hot gas that surrounds the black hole – an indication of gravity waves compacting the gas as they ripple through the region. But is that what is actually happening?


Quantum_Flux said...


Anonymous said...

A black hole is one in which nopt even EM radiation can escape the event horizon. but then they say they can detect it's presence indirectly by the emission of EM radiation.

They are barking mad.

Quantum_Flux said...

Louis, I wouldn't entirely discount black holes, after all, they are a prediction of the supercollider experiment based on high speed collisions of magnetically controlled high speed plasma.

OilIsMastery said...


I agree with your analysis.


Regarding the LHC.

Quantum_Flux said...

The formation of mini-black holes is a test on General Relativity. Prediction is that particles can be smashed with enough energy to create a subatomic event horizon according to the theoretical mass density requirements for escape velocities.

1/2 M C^2 = GMm/r

C= sqrt(2Gm/r) .... whereby all of the mass 'm' is condensed down into the volume '4/3 pi r^3' or the radius 'r' and 'G' being '6.693 × 10^−38 cubic nanometers per microgram second squared' with the radius being in nanometers and the mass being in micrograms. The proton has a mass of 1.001 micrograms per micromole....but enough quantizing here, hopefully the particle physicists can make a micro-black hole instead of just hypothesizing their existance.

Quantum_Flux said...

...or it will be the death of General Relativity without Black Holes.

OilIsMastery said...

General Relativity is dead with or without black holes; black holes are dead with or without general relativity.

Quantum_Flux said...

I think that you are mistaken about the existance of black holes.

Quantum_Flux said...

Of course, that is peerly from the point of view that the Newtonian and the Einstienian gravitational equations allow for them (which I define as escape velocity > C). Although, probably the nature of black holes is either unkown or for some other reason they don't exist.