"... the sixteenth century, an age -- as you must have been told at school -- when it was the great fashion among poets to make the denizens and powers of higher worlds descend on earth and mix freely with mortals...." -- Fyodor Dostoyevsky, author, The Brothers Karamazov, 1880
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12 comments:
OIM,
Are you going to get off your journey to the darkness of human mind and become the morbidly ignorant you were before I posted a few nice comments?!
What do YOU want to talk about?
OIM,
Physics, chemistry and sciences that impact energy and our existence... I would also include behaviors of all life forms as well. This includes speculations, but not hyperbolic extrapolation. Even creation mythology is OK, as long as, it is described within some testable or inferrable framework. But, this is your blog, so you are free to choose...
Sounds like Zeus on Mt Olympus. A lot of ancient religions do believe there are beings ascending to and descending from the skies, I'll give you that much OIM.
KV,
Exobiology is science and it has affected, is affecting, and will again affect our existence.
QF,
Naturally I agree.
QF,
You pointed out the fundamental ignorance of all cultures: Those who are in heaven look up to the Sun and the Earth and seek life of the mortals: must be the fair maidens, right OIM?
Let us face it: no bug eyes, with mouth to eat, drink and taste, and other stuff: can't be any better heaven than that! Who cares about these flying saucers, these things are confining and tired of virtual plays forever!
KV,
That's right. Paradise Lost.
"And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." -- Genesis 6:1-2
"And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Semiazaz, their leader, Arakiba, Rameel, Kokabiel, Tamiel, Ramiel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaqiel, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens." -- Enoch 6:1-8
It is possible that the ancient's gods were advanced alien races, but I just wonder why there aren't explicit statements of that being the case though. For example, that one guy in the Old Testament that went to "heaven" on a "chariot of fire". Perhaps so, but why didn't the author seek out to make a drawing of that? Why are there no saucer schematics or pictures in any of the ancient scrolls? Am I to believe that not one scroll with blue prints for a saucer design made it out of the Great Library unburned or something?
QF,
"but why didn't the author seek out to make a drawing of that?"
Why didn't Darwin draw pictures of the missing link and include them in his book? The Sanskrit texts describe vimanas in such detail that hundreds of illustrations have been made.
"Why are there no saucer schematics or pictures in any of the ancient scrolls?"
The Bible describes at least 2 different designs: saucer and cigar shaped.
"Am I to believe that not one scroll with blue prints for a saucer design made it out of the Great Library unburned or something?"
That is what I believe. The library is said to have contained nearly a million volumes. The Bruchion contained 400,000 books and the Serapeum 300,000. There was a complete catalogue of authors in 120 volumes with a brief biography of each author. Almost all of it lost.
OIM,
In my note to QF, I was pointing out the idiocity of the religious mind, when it ignores science, and thinks everything "above" is heaven, all nutcakes want to "ascend to"... like the wimps want to come to the Earth and play with fair maiden. Put yourself in the shoes (if they wear them) of the wimps...
I am happy that it got you out of the funk that you were exploring - drakness of mind. I would take morbid ignorance over the darkness of mind.
KV is the beamfucked one here.
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