Thanks to all the Darwinists who used the falsified Victorian Age hypothesis of evolution to justify genocide and who slaughtered the Native American Indians because they believed they were inferior and less evolved.
"When I was a boy, the Sioux owned the world. The sun rose and set on their land; they sent ten thousand men to battle. Where are the warriors today? Who slew them? [Darwinsts duh] Where are our lands? Who owns them? [Darwinists duh]" -- Sitting Bull, medicine man, March 1879
"If the tribal peoples actually represented Western origins at a much earlier time, it was exceedingly valuable that they should be studied intensely for clues about the nature and origin of human society. Consequently it was an injury to science and human knowledge to allow the [Darwinist] military to simply exterminate them." -- Vine Deloria Jr., historian, 1997
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Thanks to all the Darwinists who used the falsified Victorian Age hypothesis of evolution to justify genocide and who slaughtered the Native American Indians because they were less evolved.
Did you write this just because you hadn't enough of me? Genocide was nothing new in 1511, it had been practiced for millenia before the Beagle ever set sail, largely by theists.
Ask yourself what gave our ancestors the notion that they were superior to the Native Americans? Origin was published in 1859. Jamestown was established in 1511.
You are such a fucking idiot when it comes to trolling on Evolution...
Hi Jeffery,
Of course I miss you haha.
Granted the Trail of Tears happened earlier, but little did the Indians know that an even greater threat than Jefferson and Jackson was lurking aboard the HMS Beagle. 1859 is the date the racist Darwinists began their Holocaust against the American Indians and other races they deemed to be less evolved.
Whatever dude... I'm certain... certain you can do better than this.
Any topic you'd like to see discussed?
Anything discussed in a rational manner would be awesome.
And not including Alien Bastard Jesus(tm)... Clone Wars is on in a bit and I'd much rather enjoy it than to spend the whole episode subconsciously formulating a reply to your latest troll-like ejaculation of intolerance for the scientific method.
And Happy Great October Socialist Revolution day to you OIM.
OIM what if I were to edit your first sentence this way -
Thanks to all the Nazis who used the Victorian Age hypothesis of evolution to justify genocide and who slaughtered the Native German Jews because they were less evolved.
You can NOT imply that the Holocaust and other Genocides were because of Darwinists! That's NOT true and You know it!! The KKK were Protestants (CREATIONISTS) and they were EXTREMELY racist!!! You can NOT say that we, who believe that Natural Selection as FACT, established the Nationalist Socialist Party of Germany in the 1930s!! They took Evolutionary theory and used it to justify their own horrible actions!!!
Businesses practiced Social Darwinism throughout American History and that does not mean racism.
These conjectures prove you know NOTHING about racism NOR Evolutionary Theory!!
Besides, "Darwinists" are the MOST open-minded people out there! It's the Theists, as Jeffery said, that are the racists and the ones who begin these genocides!!
“Lastly, I could show fight [i.e., vigorously advocate] on natural selection having done and doing more for the progress of civilization than you seem inclined to admit. Remember what risk the nations of Europe ran, not so many centuries ago, of being overwhelmed by the Turks, and how ridiculous such an idea now is! The more civilized so-called Caucasian races have beaten the Turkish hollow in the struggle for existence. Looking to the world at no very distant date, what an endless number of the lower races will have been eliminated by the higher civilized races throughout the world.” Charles Darwin (The Life of Charles Darwin by Francis Darwin, London: Senate, 1995 reprint of 1902 John Murray edition, p. 64)
Interestingly - What Mr.Darwin here saw as a clash of "genetics" was actually a clash against Islamic Jihad.
Observent Jews and Christians (and Plato) believe "Man was created in G0d's image" - therefore we are all equal (forever).
"All men are by nature equal, made all of the same earth by one Workman; and however we deceive ourselves, as dear unto God is the poor peasant as the mighty prince."
-Plato
Darwin also used the word "Race" to refer to different kinds of Cabbages.
Also... as I've said before, the application, hell, even the originator of an idea is not reflected in an idea's truth.
.:LeMaitre theorized the Big Bang, but his Catholicism isn't part of the theory.
.:Newton invented gravity, but the stars are known not to be "fixed."
.:Many of Darwin's orginal notions on how Natural Selection operated have been corrected over the years.
Besides, I can play the quote game, too...
"The undermining of the existence of human culture by the destruction of its bearer seems in the eyes of a folkish philosophy the most execrable crime. Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent Creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise." (Hitler 1943, 383)
"What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, . . . so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe." (Hitler 1943, 214)
We are now led to believe that Christianity causes Nazi-ism. As well as being a vegetarian, clearly, being a born-again Vegan is the path to Kristalnacht.
Hey, Arie!
Explain this away...
The Nazi Party in general rejected Darwinism and supported Christianity. In 1935, Die Bücherei, the official Nazi journal for lending libraries, published a list of guidelines of works to reject, including:
"Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism (Häckel)." (Die Bücherei 1935, 279)
Raptor,
I hope you are addressing to OIM.
Raptor,
Racism isn't over, you shouldn't talk of it in the past tense. However, you are correct; theists are far more racist than agnostics, atheists and science-y types.
One can ask, what leads to racism? Largely, feelings that one race is entitled or is the inheritor of some right. By default, this means others are to be denied that right. Only in the last few centuries has mankind figured out that you should govern without recourse to religion.
For example:
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. Treaty of Tripoli, Art 11, 1797
Survival of the fittest does not mean cupcakes and chocolate chip cookies are human rights.
OIM, survival of the fittest means that the fittest get the good stuff (money, power, good health insurance, flying boatcars, nanochip powered computers) while the most unfit get the crap (poverty, annual soup kitchen lines, applications sent directly to the paper shredder).
Deserve?
Not at all. Organisms that can pass on their genes more effectively and in larger numbers are more likely to do so, barring adverse selection pressure.
Nothing about being deserving in there at all. Deserve is a kind of judgement call. Nature does not make such calls. Only humans, who separate each other into artificial groups (Us and Them being most common, but substitute your personal favorites at your leisure) make decisions about who lives and who dies.
Most organisms just exist, trying to pass on their genes as best they can under the local circumstances.
To say anything else is to commit a fallacy.
Less evolved?
We are all of us equidistant from the first proto-cells, You and I are every bit as derived from, say, Urbilaterian as is a fish or whale or a duck.
Please try and actually use science occasionally.
An observant Christian or Jew believes, "All men are created in the image of G0d"... Hitler claimed to be a Christian while working diametrically opposed to this idea while he murdered 6 million Jews, Jehova's Witnesses (gads! he killed Christians!), a bunch of Gypsies, and homosexuals. - In Germany itself, German Christians (ones who live the life preached in the book) were very confrontational to the Nazi Holocaust movement. - If a Jew eats bacon... that's a non-observant Jew no matter what they say...
More from Mr. Hitler:
"Only in the Roman Empire and in Spain under Arab domination has culture been a potent factor. Under the Arab, the standard attained was wholly admirable; to Spain flocked the greatest scientists, thinkers, astronomers, and mathematicians of the world, and side by side there flourished a spirit of sweet human tolerance and a sense of purist chivalry. Then with the advent of Christianity, came the barbarians. Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers—already you see the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity!—then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.
28 August 1942"
"I can imagine people being enthusiastic about the paradise of Mahomet, but as for the insipid paradise of the Christians! In your lifetime, you used to hear the music of Richard Wagner. After your death, it will be nothing but hallelujahs, the waving of palms, children of an age for the feeding-bottle, and hoary old men. The man of the isles pays homage to the forces of nature. But Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless — A negro with his taboos is crushingly superior to the human being who seriously believes in transubstantiation.
13 December 1941"
"It is deplorable that the Bible should have been translated into German, and that the whole of the German Folk should have thus become exposed to the whole of this Jewish mumbo jumbo… As a sane German, one is flabbergasted to think that German human beings could have let themselves be brought to such a pass by Jewish filth and priestly twaddle, that they were little different from the howling dervish of the Turks and the negroes, at whom we laugh so scornfully. It angers one to think that, while in other parts of the globe religious teaching like that of Confucius, Buddha and Mohammed offers an undeniably broad basis for the religious-minded, Germans should have been duped by a theological exposition devoid of all honest depth.
5 June 1942"
"The fact that the Japanese have retained their political philosophy, which is one of the essential reasons for their success, is due to their having been saved in time from the views of Christianity. Just as in Islam, there is no terrorism in the Japanese State religion, but, on the contrary, a promise of happiness. This terrorism in religion is , to put it briefly, of a Jewish dogma, which Christianity has universalized and whose effect is to sow trouble and confusion in men’s minds.
4 April 1942"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transubstantiation
Jeffery,
Are you saying that Nazis worshipped a Jew?
What sick and twisted planet are you from again?
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains." -- Adolf Hitler, Darwinist, December 1941
Seeing as Hitler has no true affinity for Christianity (see above)... why would he say things on the behalf of Christianity if he wasn't Christian? To influence people? The same approach he took when wooing Thule Society... or was Hitler mysterious pagan as well?
Maybe Hitler told each and everyone what they wanted/needed to hear because nobody would have gone along with his indescribably insane plan if they knew his modus operandi from the get-go.
Can't say I am wild about the Spanish Inquisition, or the part of the Crusades when the knights decided to kill all the Jews (and rob/rape) as the icing on the top of their Crusader cake. - as far as recovering land for the assaulted Byzantine Empire, I suppose the Crusades went OK. The Crusades were not only justified, but vital to preserving all Western culture from Jihad.
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Friendly non-theists?
Mao Zedong and Stalin... non-theists who murdered how many millions of people in Democide... how many multi-million?
Karl Marx, atheist extraordinaire, through his ideas has influenced so many to murder... (the above)... Pol Pot... Khmer Rouge... Che... Castro... (even Hitler, who was a very observant Occult-Christian-Muslim hybrid)
Christianity has murdered 30-50 million people in 2,000 years...
Marxism has murdered far more in one century.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM
^ Some of the nicest, sweetest, down-to-earth, open minded folk you could ever hope to meet! Real "turn the other cheek" kinda people.
-off topic, but interesting:
Karl Marx wanted to dedicate, "Das Kapital", to Darwin... Darwin politely declined siting "religious concerns".
-off topic, but interesting: Marx and Engles could not possibly be more racist.
http://marxwords.blogspot.com/2005_04_01_marxwords_archive.html#111459753209115178
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"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries. Treaty of Tripoli, Art 11, 1797"
Perhaps the authors were unaware Islam has murdered 270-420 million people in the last 1,300 years while "spreading the Gospel"...
If you are going to pick a group of insane theists who need to be heavily monitored... stick with Mohammedanism.
Obviously not every Mohammedan is a terrorist, however, almost all terrorists are Muslim.
Maybe Hitler told each and everyone what they wanted/needed to hear because nobody would have gone along with his indescribably insane plan if they knew his modus operandi from the get-go.
This is probably the most observant thing said on this blog in ages.
Good job, Arie.
OiM-
Clearly you know next to NOTHING about Natural Selection and Evolutionary theory!
I'm also apalled that you would make these claims! I'm not sure why you're being a belligerent ass, but it's got to stop!
Now that I've "vented" a bit, let me address your ignorant conjectures about racism and Evolutionary theory.
- Natural Selection isn't merely "survival of the fittest." This simply means that those individuals within a population inherit a genetic mutation that benefits them in future in the middle of a changing environment. This gene gives the owners a better chance to pass on their genes on to the next generation while the less fortunate individuals who did not obtain the beneficial gene simply could not adapt, and went extinct. A good example is us and the H. neanderthalensis (Downfall, TOO specialized) or the Smilodon fatalis.
-History clearly tells us that it is the theists that cause these problems, NOT the "Darwinists." If you're such a "historian," then WHY was their Genocides happening BEFORE Darwin even existed or Origin even PUBLISHED?! Hmm?
You're insults prove you are ignorant and a "fucking idiot when it comes to trolling on Evolution..." And, yes, I side with Mr. Keown here, hence the fact I just quoted him.
-Nazi's persecuted EVERYONE who wasn't Aryan, EVEN "Darwinists," "Athiests," "Theists," among others!
If you are going to attack something, know what you are attacking!! You are attacking an unknown opponent, unlike we, "Darwinists," as you so slanderously phrase it.
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