Wednesday, November 18, 2009

Parthenogenesis In The Bible



Notice the UFO firing a parthenogenesis beam at Mary?

I just remembered a funny argument I had with the noobs on SciForum before they banned my last sock puppet.

Atheists love to refer to the virgin birth of the extraterrestrial (see John 8:23) Jesus Christ as a miracle, by which they mean to say a violation of the laws of nature.

What atheists don't realize is that parthenogenesis is not a miracle and it is not a belief.

It is a scientific fact that any child can observe.

Yet another example (see my post on meteorites) of how the Bible is a prescient scientific treatise and atheism is a religion that denies all scientific observation.

Trivedi, B.P., The End of Males? Mouse Made to Reproduce Without Sperm, National Geographic News, Apr 2004

Vogel, G., Japanese Scientists Create Fatherless Mouse, Science, Volume 304, Number 5670, Pages 501 - 503, Apr 2004

Pearcy, M., et al., Conditional Use of Sex and Parthenogenesis for Worker and Queen Production in Ants, Science, Volume 306, Number 5702, Pages 1780-1783, Dec 2004

Watts, P.C., et al., Parthenogenesis in Komodo Dragons, Nature, 444, Pages 1021-1022, Nov 2006

Highfield, R., No Sex Please We're Lizards, Daily Telegraph, Dec 2006

Virgin Shark Gives Birth, Live Science, May 2007

Eilperin, Female Sharks Can Reproduce Alone Researchers Find, The Washington Post, May 2007

Pogatchnik, S., Female Sharks Capable of Virgin Birth, Associated Press via MSNBC, May 2007

Fountain, H., Female Shark Reproduced Without Male DNA Scientists Say, The New York Times, May 2007

Captive Shark Had 'Virgin Birth', BBC, May 2007

Mayell, H., Shark Gives 'Virgin Birth' in Detroit, National Geographic News, Sep 2007

Szkotak, S., Scientists Confirm Shark's ‘Virgin Birth’, Associated Press via MSNBC, Oct 2008

There is no doubt in my mind that extraterrestrials cause parthenogenesis in humans just as humans cause parthenogenesis in laboratory mice.

29 comments:

Jeffery Keown said...

I do not think atheist means what you think it means.

What do you think atheist means? Certainly, no atheist thinks Jesus' birth is a miracle... they mostly think he either didn't exist, or that Mary got pregnant the old fashioned way.

So what does atheist mean to you?

OilIsMastery said...

Jeffery,

"Certainly, no atheist thinks Jesus' birth is a miracle."

This statement is absurd. I personally know several that do.

"they mostly think he either didn't exist, or that Mary got pregnant the old fashioned way."

If Jesus didn't exist, then how did Christians discover parthenogenesis two millenia before scientists did?

"So what does atheist mean to you?"

An atheist is someone like David Hume who thinks virgin births and immaculate conceptions are miraculous violations of the laws of nature.

Jeffery Keown said...

You didn't answer correctly.

An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in gods.

Therefore, atheists do not believe in the Virgin Birth as described in the Bible. You can't go around making Christians atheists because you disagree with them.

David Hume didn't think the Virgin Birth was a miracle... he didn't seem to think that miracles occured.

You giving a straight answer...that would be a miracle.

Jesus didn't exist, then how did Christians discover parthenogenesis two millenia before scientists did?

That's easy... they needed a miracle in the story, and a virgin having a baby was pretty awesome. Jesus was born just like anyone else. If he existed at all.

KV said...

Isaiah 7:14 says that a virgin will bear a son. The problem is dealing with the Hebrew word for virgin, which is "almah." According to the Strong's Concordance it means, "virgin, young woman 1a) of marriageable age 1b) maid or newly married." Therefore, the word "almah" does not always mean virgin. The word "occurs elsewhere in the Old Testament only in Genesis 24:43 (”maiden“); Exodus 2:8 (”girl“); Psalm 68:25 (”maidens“); Proverbs 30:19 (”maiden“); Song of Songs 1:3 (”maidens“); 6:8 (”virgins“)."1 Additionally, there is a Hebrew word for virgin: bethulah. If Isaiah 7:14 was meant to mean virgin instead of young maiden, then why wasn't the word used here?

Link: http://www.carm.org/bible-difficulties/isaiah-malachi/isaiah-714-hebrew-means-maiden-not-virgin-therefore-it-not


So, OIM,

If you like to think that wimps fucked maiden Mary from their flying saucer and mutated an egg in her state of the readiness, it is fine with me.

KV said...

OIM,

Mary must have been a fair maiden.

Now, you need to find a painting that abducts Mary for proper procedure of egg-fucking so that Jesus can be brought into this world.

Why can't you stop being blasphemous?

Jeffery Keown said...

I do not think he believes he's being blasphemous.

Really.

Just as I would suggest that Jesus was born just like you or I, Oils has it in his little head that he was a space alien.

Jesus was trying very hard to fulfill Jewish prophecy and his followers created a religion around him.

Neither of these is blasphemous per se, but one them is crazy.

KV said...

JK,

I would say that OIM is blasphemous to all beliefs except his own. Previously he has been hung up on holocaust, then he would attribute Bhagvat Gita to Oppenheimer. He has no problem properly attributing to dead old greek farts and wimps.

OilIsMastery said...

Jeffery,

"atheists do not believe in the Virgin Birth as described in the Bible."

I rest my case.

Jeffery Keown said...

There is no evidence that it happened, and plenty of etymological evidence that the Bible is wrong.

KV quoted the relevant text.

You fail to comprehend.

KV said...

OIM,
You have no proof to claim the extraterrestrial Jesus Christ!

Your citation of John 8:23 is an unverified and without any collobarating evidence. Besides, you don't know whether John was high on the cocaine that was in storage in Egypt... or, some stuff gave by the wimps.

The mice experiment's success rate is so low that wimps would be freaking around with any maiden they could abdicate, or beam fuck.

KV said...

OIM,

Was Moses also created by beam-fuckers?

KV said...

OIM,

How about Abraham? Was he born through beam-fuck? Or, was his brain beam-fucked? Do we have this technology like your previous posts claimed about UFO technologies?

OilIsMastery said...

KV,

Please refrain from using profanity. I have readers who are young adults.

OilIsMastery said...

KV,

"Your citation of John 8:23 is an unverified"

Everything you say is unverified so I'm not sure why verification is relevant.

KV said...

OIM,

Only when you stop being a blasphemous...

It is you who has been proposing that wimps beam-fucked maiden Mary. You like to portray that as medieval painting. May be you should warn your young readers in the post that this is not suitable for their viewing as they will learn about vicarious sex. I forgot, the whole damn I-net is full of vicarious stuff, porn and all, why don't you crusade against that then a few four letter words. Besides, beam-fuck is nice sounding word, and it might become part of the vocabulary soon as more and more start believing your crazyness.

Raptor Lewis said...

Everyone-

Personally, this conversation is all irrelevant. I mean, honestly, you guys have gotten off-topic just a bit.

Another, thing, what does Atheism have to do with the painting?! (This is rhetorical, by the way.)

You all got off on this irrelevant tangent thanks to Jeffery who I think is just being a little beligerrent who seems to dislike OilIsMastery!

Shouldn't we focus on admiring the painting and leave this comments section to the interpretation of the painting, and, perhaps, quit this whole forum concept?

I think that we should focus on the painting, instead of focusing on and criticising others' values and religious beliefs.

In other words, please leave the administrator alone!

Raptor Lewis said...

Jeffery-

When you asked OiM about an atheist means to him, there is NO right or wrong answer! Those kind of questions ask for someone's opinion and, therefore there is no such thing as "right" or "wrong."

Second, I don't mean for this to sound like an accusation, but why do I get the feeling you only asked that question to harrass OiM even more? Oh....I don't know...maybe it was your reply to his answer?

Raptor Lewis said...

OiM- You've made a valid point about Atheism being a religion. Though the term "Atheism" means "without theology, or religion," it is truly a religion like environmentalism.

Here is what a religion really is:

A shared set of beliefs about the world or he universe among a collective group of people with several leaders promoting the beliefs by any means possible within the cult.


As anyone can see, Mr. Keown is incorrect on the definition of both religion and atheism. In fact, atheism is a misleading name if it has become like a religion. ;)

KV said...

OIM,

Here is a link to the beautiful painting of Annunciation by Crivelli, instead of photoshop enhanced crap to show UFO that you posted...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6c/Crivelli_Annunciation.jpg

KV said...

Raptor,

According to OIM, you are too young to read the comments on this blog... Go do something else, you need to be 18, unless you are associated with Palins.

Jeffery Keown said...

Raptor Lewis Sayeth:
When you asked OiM about an atheist means to him, there is NO right or wrong answer!

But then Raptor Lewis Sayeth
Though the term "Atheism" means "without theology, or religion," ...

Make up your mind, youngling.

GaryN said...

Google Ben Panthera. This is the most likely story, Mary got 'forced' by a soldier, got preggers, they made it into a virgin birth.

Jeffery Keown said...

What Oils is trying to get across is this:

.:Atheists think the Virgin Birth was a miracle.

.:They do not believe in miracles

.:They do not believe in the Virgin Birth.

It follows therefore that since the Gnostics and Christians invented the Virgin Birth story that they were (2000-odd years ago) sooo much smarter than say, Richard Dawkins or Douglas Adams.

Now, here is the tricky part. Oils comes right out and says that Jesus was an alien half-breed, or at the very least, engineered by aliens.

Again, this is far more likely than Jesus being the son of a god.

Not that I buy it, KV, I just say it's the more plausible of the two choices.

Jeffery Keown said...

Oh... and Beam-Fuck is a pretty funny term.

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Jeffery Keown said...

As anyone can see, Mr. Keown is incorrect on the definition of both religion and atheism. In fact, atheism is a misleading name if it has become like a religion.

Atheism is not a religion. It is the opposite of religion.

It means "without gods."

Oil's distortions are one thing, but it is not, in any sense of the term, a religion.

KV said...

JK,

Beam-fuck as a word congealed without any plan. More I think about it, it has much broader application, especially for those who claim to be abducted to a saucer by a beam and then probed in all cavities... OIM should be proud for posting the pic that lead to inventing a new word.

KV said...

OIM,

You bummed the Annunciation picture from http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/07/ from an article titled: “UFO’s” In Sacred Works Of Art Not All That They Initially Appear To Be

A few important points extracted:

The Annunciation (pictured) is one of the artworks that was a major disappointment, at least as far as I was concerned. As you can see from the picture, it would appear to depict a UFO shooting some sort of beam of light onto the crown which adorns the head of the Virgin Mary.
Now there are a couple of things that are worth noting with this painting, not least of all that it appears to show a classic UFO shape.
The other point is that the majority of images on the internet are crops of the same image. The reason this is important is that it’s not possible to clearly discern what the UFO is intended to portray. In fact if you zoom in on most of the current copies of the same image, it certainly does appear to be a UFO.
It’s important to understand that the Annunciation refers to the Immaculate Conception, i.e. the virgin birth when the Holy Spirit, “Touched,” the Virgin Mary.
LUKE: Chapter 1, verses 26-38:
26 In her sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent forth from God to a city of Gal´i•lee named Nazareth, 27 to a virgin promised in marriage to a man named Joseph of David’s house; and the name of the virgin was Mary. 28 And when he went in before her he said: “Good day, highly favored one, God is with you.”
29 But she was deeply disturbed at the saying and began to reason out what sort of greeting this might be. 30 So the angel said to her: “Have no fear, Mary, for you have found favor with God; 31 and, look! you will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son, and you are to call his name Jesus.
32 This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High; and God will give him the throne of David his father, 33 and he will rule as king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end of his kingdom.”
34 But Mary said to the angel: “How is this to be, since I am having no intercourse with a man?” 35 In answer the angel said to her: “Holy spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you. For that reason also what is born will be called holy, God’s Son.

Link: http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/07/30/ufos-in-sacred-works-of-art-not-all-that-they-initially-appear-to-be/

Raptor Lewis said...
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Jeffery Keown said...

Raptor said:
A shared set of beliefs about the world or he universe among a collective group of people with several leaders promoting the beliefs by any means possible within the cult.

Atheists have no leaders, they have no promotion of beliefs, they have no cult. It is not a religion.

Try again.