Thursday, November 12, 2009

The Music of the Spheres

+ Play sound of Saturn's radio emissions, which have changing frequencies.

NASA: Bizarre Sounds of Saturn's Radio Emissions.

Saturn is a source of intense radio emissions, which have been monitored by the Cassini spacecraft. The radio waves are closely related to the auroras near the poles of the planet. These auroras are similar to Earth's northern and southern lights. This is an audio file of Saturn's radio emissions.

The Cassini spacecraft began detecting these radio emissions in April 2002, when Cassini was 374 million kilometers (234 million miles) from the planet, using the Cassini radio and plasma wave science instrument.
"In the same city [Cyzicus] also, there is a stone, known as the 'Fugitive Stone;' the Argonautæ, who used it for the purposes of an anchor, having left it there. This stone having repeatedly taken flight from the Prytanæum, the place so called where it is kept, it has been fastened down with lead." -- Pliny the Elder, historian, 77

"Democritus [said], that there is but one sort of motion, and it is that which is vibratory." -- Plutarch, historian, 1st century

"And he [Pythagoras], after having enquired into physics, combined with it astronomy, geometry, and music." -- Hippolytus, priest, 2nd century

"He [Pythagoras] declared ... that the nature of the cosmos is according to musical harmony, wherefore the sun makes his journey rhythmically." -- Hippolytus, priest, 2nd century

"He [Pythagoras] also discovered the numerical relation of sounds on a single string...." -- Diogenes Laertius, historian, 3rd century

"He himself [Pythagoras] could hear the harmony of the Universe, and understood the universal music of the spheres, and of the stars which move in concert with them, and which we cannot hear because of the limitations of our weak nature. This is testified to by ... Empedocles." -- Porphyry, philosopher, 3rd century

"... to what Agent did the Ancients attribute the gravity of their atoms and what did they mean by calling God an harmony and comparing him & matter (the corporeal part of the Universe) to the God Pan and his Pipe?" -- Isaac Newton, mathematician, 169-

"In 1960, already in 1955, radio noises from Jupiter were detected and this was one of the crucial tests that I offered for the truth of my theory." -- Immanuel Velikovsky, cosmologist, 1966

"Francois Lenormont writes in his Chaldean Magic that by means of sounds the priests of ancient Babylon were able to raise into the air heavy rocks which a thousand men could not have lifted." -- Andrew Tomas, author, 1971

"Babylonian tablets affirm that sound could lift stones. The Bible speaks of Jericho and what sound waves did to it's walls. Coptic writings relate the process by which blocks for the pyramids were elevated by the sound of chanting. However, at the present state of our knowledge we can establish no connection between sound and weightlessness." -- Andrew Tomas, author, 1971

"Our debate ended on Friday, April 8, 1955, only nine days before Einstein’s death. I think I was the last person with whom he discussed a scientific problem. On that day I brought him the published news that Jupiter sends out radio noises; ten months earlier, in a letter to him, I had offered to stake our dispute on this my claim of an as yet undiscovered phenomenon...." -- Immanuel Velikovsky, cosmologist, 1976

"Subsequent experiments conducted by Tom Danley in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid and in chambers above the King's Chamber suggest that the pyramid was constructed for a sonic purpose. Danley identifies four resident frequencies, or notes, that are enhanced by the structure of the pyramid, and by the materials used in it's construction. The notes from an F Sharp chord, which according to ancient Egyptian texts were the harmonic of our planet." -- Boris Said, egyptologist, 1996

"Included in the program is a meeting with a Native American maker of sacred flutes from Oregon. His flutes, which are made to serenade Mother Earth, are tuned to the key of F Sharp!" -- Boris Said, egyptologist, 1996

"If I were to try to replicate [Edward] Leedskalnin's feat, I would begin with the premise that he was using his flywheel to generate a single-frequency tunable radio signal. The box at the top of the tripod would contain the radio receiver (there are several tuners in Leedskalnin's workshop), and the cable coming from the box would be attached to a speaker that emitted sound to vibrate the coral rock at it's resonant frequency. With the atoms in the coral vibrating (like those in an iron bar), I would then attempt to flip their magnetic poles -- which are naturally in an attraction orientation with the Earth -- using an electromagnetic field." -- Christopher Dunn, author, 1998

"Recently, granite cores dated to Egypt's pyramid age and examined by American technologist Christopher Dunn have revealed clear signs of being drilled using a form of ultrasonics -- the same technique that powers pneumatic drills today. According to his calculations, the drills employed must have penetrated the granite 500 times faster than the modern diamond-tipped drills. All this is interesting, for there is also evidence that ultrasonic devices were used to disintegrate rock in Tibetan monasteries, while in the nineteenth century a maverick American scientist named John Ernest Worrell Keely developed a sympathetic vibratory apparatus that could raise heavy objects into the air and disintegrate granite. Like the stone cores from Egypt, Keely found that ultrasonics could penetrate quartz much faster than other types of mineral because it so closely matched the ultrasonic frequency range used in this process. This knowledge of ultrasonic drilling in ancient Egypt is a startling revelation, and is yet further evidence that the Pyramid builders were in possession of an advanced technology that came out of nowhere. " -- Andrew Collins, author, 1998

"Was it possible therefore that the world once possessed an understanding of sound that was lost and never recovered?" -- Andrew Collins, author, 1998

"Saturn is a source of intense radio emissions. The radio waves are closely related to the auroras near the poles of the planet. These auroras are similar to Earth's northern and southern lights." -- Bill Kurth, astrophysicist, July 2005

"[Andrew] Collins is also alive to the possibility that the 'Sound Eye' may represent some lost science and technology of sound." -- Joseph P. Farrell, author, 2007


KV said...


Check before you clip paste, but forgot, you don't read and analyze, you believe, and what yu believe is final!

After his death a close friend revealed that he had once asked Keely what he wanted for an epitaph, and Keely had replied, "Keely, the greatest humbug of the nineteenth century".[43] Keely is buried in West Laurel Hill Cemetery in Bala Cynwyd, Pennsylvania.

And these were Keely's claims:

John Ernst Worrell Keely (September 3, 1827 – November 18, 1898) was a US inventor from Philadelphia who claimed to have discovered a new motive power which was originally described as "vaporic" or "etheric" force, and later as an unnamed force based on "vibratory sympathy", by which he produced "interatomic ether" from water and air.

All this is at Wiki and many other places... Keely was an interesting character, may be one of the left behind wimp, could not figure out wimpy technology.

Jeffery Keown said...

A real prediction that Jupiter should emit radio waves would include a specific mention of the physical process responsible, as well as observational or theoretical reasons why that mechanism should be present on Jupiter.

Velikovsky couldn't do this. It was wild speculation. Like much of Oil's favorite thinkers, they make up stuff that later proves to be "right" but not for the reasons they may have mentioned....

OilIsMastery said...


Abderite LOL.

Velikovsky was the only scientist in recent history who made an accurate prediction of Jupiter's radio noises, therefore Velikovksy is the only scientist you should take seriously. And Velikovsky provided the mechanism but you're just ignorant.

Jeffery Keown said...

Quite the leap of logic. So no other scientist living or dead should be taken seriously?

I'd better stop taking my cancer procedures and see if Velikovsky had anything to say about transitional cell carcinoma.

After all, he's dead, and according to you, science can't advance now that he's gone. I hope I get lucky.

The very notion that nothing of value has been uncovered since 1979 is absurd. You need to get some perspective.

Jeffery Keown said...

"To the best of my knowledge, there is not a single astronomical prediction correctly made in Worlds in Collision with sufficient precision for it to be more than a vague lucky guess; and there are, as I have tried to point out, a host of claims made which are demonstrably false. The existence of strong radio emission from Jupiter is sometimes pointed to as the most striking example of a correct prediction by Velikovsky; but all objects give off radio waves if they are at temperatures above absolute zero. The essential character of the Jovian radio emission - that it is nonthermal, polarized, intermittent radiation, connected with the vast belts of charged particles which surround Jupiter, trapped by its strong magnetic field - are nowhere predicted by Velikovsky. Indeed, his "prediction" is clearly not linked in its essentials to the fundamental Velikovskian theses."

Carl Sagan, someone I take seriously. Velikovsky was an ass.

OilIsMastery said...


I hope you are doing ok healthwise.

In response to: "The very notion that nothing of value has been uncovered since 1979 is absurd. You need to get some perspective."

I say nothing has been discovered in the past several hundred thousand years. Everything of value has merely been rediscovered.

OilIsMastery said...

Carl Sagan is an idiot for saying that.

"I who am a specialist in the field am moved to ask myself, 'Did this physician [Immanuel Velikovsky] writing in 1954 know more about physics of radio emissions than this physicist [Carl Sagan] writing 20 years later?'" -- James Warwick, astronomer, 1974

"This Sagan assumption is so disingenuous that I do not hesitate to label it as either a deliberate fraud on the public or else a manifestation of unbelievable incompetence or hastiness combined with desperation and wretchedly poor judgement." -- Robert W. Bass, astronomer, 1976

"Dr. Velikovsky pointed out that the collisions were not independent; in fact, if two bodies orbiting the Sun under the influence of gravity collide once, that encounter enhances the chance of another, a well known fact in celestial mechanics. Professor Sagan's calculations, in effect, ignore the law of gravity. Here, Dr. Velikovsky was the better astronomer." -- Robert Jastrow, astrophysicist, December 1979

And Sagan is a blatant liar.

"Venus experienced in quick succession its birth and expulsion under violent conditions; an existence as a comet on an ellipse which approached the sun closely; two encounters with the earth accompanied by discharges of [electric] potentials between these two bodies and with a thermal effect caused by conversion of momentum into heat; a number of contacts with Mars, and probably also with Jupiter. Since all this happened between the third and first millennia before the present era, the core of the planet Venus must still be hot." -- Immanuel Velikovsky, cosmologist, 1950

"... the surface of Venus is hot, far hotter than anyone had previously imagined." -- Carl Sagan, professor, 1966

"To be sure Velikovsky made some predictions that seemed to be close to what astronomers eventually discovered to be so ... For instance, Velikovsky stated that since Venus was formed from Jupiter's interior which must be very hot, Venus itself would be very hot. He said this in 1950, when astronomers believed that Venus' temperature, while warmer that Earth's might not be very much warmer." -- Isaac Asimov, writer, 1981

Jeffery Keown said...

None of that proves anything Oils. He thought Venus and Jupiter were hot because of Venus supposed birth from Jupiter. Since that never occured, he was wrong.

I can guess that the sky is blue because God Painted It, and that doesn't make me right just because the sky is blue.

It's like Swift and the moons of Mars. He guessed it had two moons, but was way off on their orbital distance and period. Even his reasoning behind the number two was off.

You have to have a sound prediction before it is considered a useful prediction.

Unlike, for example, the predictions made by those Evolutionary Development folks. I can, and have, provided lists of solid predictions.

None of the so-called predictions you put your faith in has value. What did Democritus tell us about Mars? What can Velikovsky tell us about Venus volcanoes or the composition of its rocks or atmosphere?

Answer: Nothing.

OilIsMastery said...


Venus is a new planet that was ejected from Jupiter.

"As Zeus's daughter she'll be immortal and live in heaven with her brothers, Pollux and Castor, the heavenly twins, an extra star for ships to steer their courses by." -- Euripides, playwright, Orestes, 408 B.C.

Swift didn't have to guess that Mars had two moons because Homer, Virgil, and Kepler already told him Mars has two moons.

"So he [Mars] spoke, and ordered Deimos and Phobos to harness." -- Homeros, poet, Iliad, XV:119, 8th century B.C.

"What did Democritus tell us about Mars?"

This is what Democritus had to say about Mars:

"He [Democritus] said that the ordered worlds are boundless and differ in size, and that in some there is neither sun nor moon, but that in others, both are greater than with us, and yet with others more in number. And that the intervals between the ordered worlds are unequal, here more and there less, and that some increase, others flourish and others decay, and here they come into being and there they are eclipsed. But that they are destroyed by colliding with one another. And that some ordered worlds are bare of animals and plants and all water." -- Hippolytus, priest, 2nd century

"What can Velikovsky tell us about Venus volcanoes or the composition of its rocks or atmosphere?"

That they are young.

Jeffery Keown said...

I said Mars. Specifically... you used the same old non-prediction. He added and subtracted features of our world to speculate about other worlds.

He didn't know a thing.

And Velikovsky is dead wrong about Venus. That you quote him endlessly has no bearing on the matter. You can repeat it ad nauseum (which you may have, actually) and it changes nothing.

Show me that any of your honored dead actually knew any of this... you can't.

Jeffery Keown said...

"So he [Mars] spoke, and ordered Deimos and Phobos to harness." -- Homeros, poet, Iliad, XV:119, 8th century B.C.

The two moons were named after that quote.

And I've explained why Kepler thought as he did. Earth has one moon, Jupiter four moons (an incorrect notion) and two for Mars seemed right.

In other words, he tried really hard to be clever, but was just wrong.

You just can't be reasoned with, and I'm crazy as fuck for trying.

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