Saturday, October 17, 2009

U.F.O. Wars









32 comments:

Quantum_Flux said...

There are many possible explanations for UFO incidents, each one is unique. Ice particles, star wars tests, space trash, top secret government crafts, high tech hobbyists, abnormal weather patterns, illusions, hallucinations, hoaxes, etc, and then there are alien spacecraft as well.

In think that, certainly, UFO events that are observed in mass or that make the news are the most credible, followed by reports from vfr pilots, astronauts, and air traffic controllers, and then there are the police and military personel....however, sometimes even the best of them can be wrong, and other times the best of them can put out misinformation too.

How is it, OIM, that a UFO has never shot down a fighter pilot or a pilot has never shot down a UFO if there has been these reported "dog fights"? Why hasn't there been any inventors who have invented useful devices whom claim to have been given information by aliens? Clearly no inventors would be worried about the aliens getting prior art, am I right?

OilIsMastery said...

"How is it, OIM, that a UFO has never shot down a fighter pilot or a pilot has never shot down a UFO if there has been these reported 'dog fights'?"

Reuters: U.S. pilot was ordered to shoot down UFO.

"LONDON (Reuters) - Two U.S. fighter planes were scrambled and ordered to shoot down an unidentified flying object (UFO) over the English countryside during the Cold War, according to secret files made public on Monday.

One pilot said he was seconds away from firing 24 rockets at the object, which moved erratically and gave a radar reading like "a flying aircraft carrier."

The pilot, Milton Torres, now 77 and living in Miami, said it spent periods motionless in the sky before reaching estimated speeds of more than 7,600 mph.

After the alert, a shadowy figure told Torres he must never talk about the incident and he duly kept silent for more than 30 years.

His story was among dozens of UFO sightings in defense ministry files released at the National Archives in London."

"Why hasn't there been any inventors who have invented useful devices whom claim to have been given information by aliens?"

You are assuming that they haven't. It's possible that all our technology has been handed to us from extraterrestrials e.g. Prometheus.

"Clearly no inventors would be worried about the aliens getting prior art, am I right?"

If technology is being withheld from the public (which it obviously is), it is possible that we are part of a neutrality agreement or we are being protected for our own good or kept out of the fight for other reasons.

OilIsMastery said...

PressTV: Iran downs strange bright craft over Persian Gulf.

"Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) has targeted and downed an unidentified shining object after sighting it over Persian Gulf waters.

"Glowing objects were sighted over the Persian Gulf. IRGC air defense targeted one of the objects successfully, forcing it to plummet and sink in the seas off Boushehr (Province)," said top regional commander, Brigadier Ali Razmjou.

"The three bright objects were detected by our radars when flying over the Persian Gulf Islands of Khark and Khargou," he added, according to a Monday report posted on IRNA.

Brig. Razmjou explained that when the radars indicated that they were not Iranian aircrafts, the IRGC fired at the three objects. He also added that the fallen objects' remains have not been found yet.

The exact time and location of the sighting and downing of the weird aircraft has not been announced."

Quantum_Flux said...

I must point out something very fishy in the first news article, I think you already know what's fishy about the second one:

One pilot said he was seconds away from firing 24 rockets at the object, which moved erratically and gave a radar reading like "a flying aircraft carrier."

The pilot, Milton Torres, now 77 and living in Miami, said it spent periods motionless in the sky before reaching estimated speeds of more than 7,600 mph
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....have you have any idea what kind of gigantic sonic boom that would create? It would obliterate everything on the ground.

Quantum_Flux said...

Hmmmm, that second article could have well been a, um, of course it was alien in origin, LOL ;)

OilIsMastery said...

"....have you have any idea what kind of gigantic sonic boom that would create? It would obliterate everything on the ground."

You are assuming the use of primitive technology which is a very bad assumption.

Quantum_Flux said...

Why didn't they interview the second pilot?

OilIsMastery said...

It seems to me everyone they interview agrees including every U.S. President.

Quantum_Flux said...

Huh? For all I know that could have been some kind of light hologram projected onto the clouds. Perhaps the jets were scrambled merely as a test in the effectiveness of holographic deception technology. Perhaps vapor clouds were condensed on those spots with via focusing high intensity laser beams and then muliple projectors from 3 locations were projected onto those condensed clouds, if the laser focus were swept along with the projectors then it would give the illusion of a battleship moving at mach 10 speeds.

Quantum_Flux said...

Perhaps the lasers were focused through a divergent lense....hmmmm.

OilIsMastery said...

Truman

Nixon

Ford

Carter

Reagan

Clinton

Bush Jr.

Obama.

Quantum_Flux said...

Hmmmm, Gerald Ford and Harry Truman are somewhat intriguing prospects in this matter. I'm going to watch that UFO Hunters on the White House episode....

Quantum_Flux said...

Yeah, that series was hilarious first of all (LMAO, Clinon was kept in the dark by the CIA, and the Ronald Reagan bit was freaking hilarious too, not sure why he was kept in the dark, why didn't that video mention Star Wars?), and second of all it puts a new perspective on the Iraq War and the CIA's involvement in UFO research (and development thereof).

I would also like to point out that the UFO hunter video neglects to mention the NAZI experiments during the FDR-Truman years and fails to mention the Werhner Von Braun - JFK connections. It also fails to mention anything about John Von Neumann's connection to the Manhattan Project and his subsequent research into nuclear rocketry (The Kiwi Rocket and Operation Dumbo is an obscure piece of research, and none is mentioned about Operation Longshot or Orion Project or Project Deadalus).

Fungus FitzJuggler III said...

The best thing about UFO is that it ties up certain personality types and stops them from bothering the adults.

Quantum_Flux said...

I thought the best thing about UFOs is discovering government secrets.

Quantum_Flux said...

Major Clue:

UFO Hunters: Relics (5/5)

KV said...

OIM,

In olden times, these extraterrestrials were throwing hot rocks, messing around with fair maidens they designed, were giants and chimeras, and now they hide in puny little saucer looking all alike and come and go like firefly! How does this work?

Here is my take: that hot rock throwing guy has devolved to grays, blues, and other puny little genetically identical automatons, while their creation is trying to learn how to build spaceships to go to the old world (heaven or heathen of the book) to genetically reengineer the grays, blues and others with dicks and ducts so that they become like us.

OilIsMastery said...

KV,

They've had saucers since day one.

KV said...

OIM,

I could care less whether they had saucers. Read my post again, and see the real context.

Here is the question: why are these aliens devolving, while we seem to evolve toward building spaceships?

OilIsMastery said...

You have no evidence the aliens are devolving but if you did it would simply confirm Michael Cremo and human devolution.

Humans aren't evolving towards spaceships. We've had them in the worlds before our own and we have them now.

KV said...

OIM,

Where are our spaceships which we had before the hot rock thorwing aliens came to create fair maidens to have sex with?

KV said...

OIM,

You have no REAL evidence on aliens. Do you know how big a market it would be to have aliens give a ride to space for your bio-fluids?

KV said...

OIM,

Also, all the UFO videos seem to show some of then playing hide and seek (like laser tag). Life can get boring especially all you can do is spawn and create anothermoron bug eyed sexless automaton.

OilIsMastery said...

KV,

"Where are our spaceships which we had before the hot rock thorwing aliens came to create fair maidens to have sex with?"

Where are the tanks in Europe that faught World War II?

"I mean, there were huge battles that took place in Europe during World War II. And you can go back to those places now. I mean, there should be, you know, just tons of equipment and stuff lying around. But it's not there. You can hardly find a thing. So I think, over millions of years, there can be a lot of destruction." -- Michael A. Cremo, author, August 2006

OilIsMastery said...

KV,

"You have no REAL evidence on aliens."

You have no REAL evidence on anything.

"They came from outerspace -- and posed for portraits." -- Erich Von Däniken, author, December 3rd 2002

KV said...

OIM,

Can you see wartorne defunct Europe taking metals from destroyed tanks to rebuild, called fast recycling?

Have you ever been to a museum?

By your way of thinking, Talibans are armed by aliens, as they really don't have any factory building AK-47s!

ON Erich Von Däniken: like he was there!. If somebody writes it and you like it, it is final. And what a ugly portraits these guys drew! They must be smoking stuff that only aliens have! Time for more fish!
On

OilIsMastery said...

KV,

"Can you see wartorne defunct Europe taking metals from destroyed tanks to rebuild, called fast recycling?"

Are you saying the UFOs have been recycled?

"Have you ever been to a museum?"

I've been to the British Museum where they have Sumerian statues of extraterrestrials. I'm guessing you haven't?

I've been to the Met where hangs Lorenzo Monaco's portrait of Jesus riding a UFO. I'm guessing you haven't?

I've been to the Palazzo Vecchio where hangs Domenico Ghirlandaio's The Madonna with Saint Giovannino. I'm guessing you haven't?

OilIsMastery said...

KV,

"ON Erich Von Däniken: like he was there!"

I'm pretty sure Von Daniken has been to Sego Canyon Utah and Kimberley Australia to see the portraits of extraterrestrials. Have you?

KV said...

OIM,

You are pathetic!

You wrote: I'm pretty sure Von Daniken has been to Sego Canyon Utah and Kimberley Australia to see the portraits of extraterrestrials. Have you?


Good for Daniken, and your surety of him! Look man! If they are so chicken to show up now, there must be something wrong! And, if they created you, as you believe, you are a specimen, for their disposal, whenever they need fair maidens or bio-fluids!

By the way, have you ever met a hot rock throwing alien?

OilIsMastery said...

KV,

They aren't chicken to show up. They've showed up countless numerous times and are observed fighting in the night sky today.

"And, if they created you, as you believe, you are a specimen, for their disposal, whenever they need fair maidens or bio-fluids!"

There is more than one type of extraterrestrial. If you think aliens are impossible why is there life on Earth? Miracle of God?

"By the way, have you ever met a hot rock throwing alien?"

I suspect hot rocks are an analogy but the answer is no.

KV said...

OIM,

The hot rock throwing alien is in bible.

How do you know how many different types of aliens are there? If there aremany different types, it would be really cheap for a space-ride, we can make them compete!

What is the problem with these aliens? Why can't they show themselves? Why are they mutilating cows? Why don't they share in a barbaque in the backyard. They can share their recipes of bio-fluids. I do remember some cultures make blood sausages or something like that.

The punchline is that we have enough scientific instruments in the space that we should have been able to find a clear picture of a bug-eye looking from his little saucer, keeping an eye on cow to mutilate.

KV said...

OIM, you wrote:

I've been to the British Museum where they have Sumerian statues of extraterrestrials. I'm guessing you haven't?

I can believe Sumerian statues that were there, and it gave you a vision of aliens. You are right, they only appear as statues to me, not aliens!

and,

I've been to the Met where hangs Lorenzo Monaco's portrait of Jesus riding a UFO. I'm guessing you haven't?


Jesus in a spaceship? So he did not rise? Got to know what was Monaco smoking before painting Jesus going for a spaceride. I have no idea what Jesus paid for a ride...